Can we please just get levee allowances completely removed?

[Relisa]

Look, the whole leve allowance was poor game design from the beginning, even in 1.0. If I have to say one thing, at least SOE got it right in SWG. They put no artificial limitation on the mission system (leve system). You could grind and repeat as much as you wanted. They knew putting an artificial limitation on the mission system (leve system) was bad design from the beginning. Also another game that did it right for a mission system (leve system), was City of Heroes as well.

You are probably going to say, "Well if they remove the leve allowances, then you can breeze right through levels in crafting and etc." So what, I can already do that now with leves or even the new collectible system at lvl 50+. I don't care if they lower the exp and rewards more just so we can have infinite levees. I will gladly accept that.

Or, you know what, give us a lvl 15-50 collectible system to earn exp when we have no leves, that will work too. Why should the collectible system only be for lvl 50+? It can easily be modified to include lower level items, and add npcs to the major cities for the lower level turn in. You can even make it so it requires the HW expansion to get the collectable system at the lower levels through a quest. Really, there are multiple ways to solve this.

TLDR: Give us infinite levees (with lower rewards) or level 15-50 collectibles (Can require HW expansion to get it).

[Granyala]

Are you trying to level a gatherer the china way or how do you manage to run out of leves?

[Relisa]

Are you trying to level a gatherer the china way or how do you manage to run out of leves?

You can easily run out of 100 levees allowances leveling crafting from 15 - 50 or mining and botany. I've done it multiple times. I am sitting at 0 levees right now, just getting leatherworker from 15 - 48. And, no I am not leveling the china way at all. I am just playing normally over the holidays.

[Pence]

I'm fine with keeping it. Having to craft to level? Oh no. Plan it correctly and you can make a massive profit. But I'm guessing you just want to power level to 60, and have no care for real efficiency.

[Relisa]

I'm fine with keeping it. Having to craft to level? Oh no. Plan it correctly and you can make a massive profit. But I'm guessing you just want to power level to 60, and have no care for real efficiency.

You say real efficiency, but technically speaking using levees are the most efficient way currently. Heck even battle classes have infinite ways to go from 1-50 (dungeons and fates). Why can't crafters and gathers have something similar, aka collectibles for 15-50?

[Pence]

Fine. You're right.

They should give unlimited leves with them having a 1% of the current reward.

Happy now?

Edit: Had to add this; you can't AFK level a DoW/M by yourself. DoH? Easy while making a profit.

[Granyala]

You can easily run out of 100 levees allowances leveling crafting from 15 - 50 or mining and botany. I've done it multiple times. I am sitting at 0 levees right now, just getting leatherworker from 15 - 48. And, no I am not leveling the china way at all. I am just playing normally over the holidays.

Mmmh kay.
I hope you HQ the stuff you turn in for double XP.

If you are leveling from 1-50 I wouldn't start using levels before 30+. That's when stuff starts to slow down.
Always try your best to HQ stuff, A LOT more XP that way, even if you end up doing a normal item, the game still rewards you for trying.
Also make macros so you can watch movies while macro-crafting.

As Pence stated: try to craft stuff that is in demand. You can level AND make a profit at the same time.

[Lexia]

You say real efficiency, but technically speaking using levees are the most efficient way currently. Heck even battle classes have infinite ways to go from 1-50 (dungeons and fates). Why can't crafters and gathers have something similar, aka collectibles for 15-50?

Not all leves are efficient, if you want to get the most out exp out of your leve it usually good to do the triple leve turn in opposed to the single leve and use HQ items for the turn in.

[Relisa]

Fine. You're right.

They should give unlimited leves with them having a 1% of the current reward.

Happy now?

Edit: Had to add this; you can't AFK level a DoW/M by yourself. DoH? Easy while making a profit.

Huh, I have never been able to afk level a DoH, because I am always trying to HQ for the most efficient use of my time and materials. I guess you could afk level it, but boy that would burn through so many materials and gil. Also, yes you can AFK level a DoW/M. Get in a party that is doing fates, go to fate and hit mob once / auto attack. Then, get gold from party doing the rest of the work while you go afk. I have seen it happen multiple times while leveling all DoW jobs to 50 prior to HW. Not only did you get gil from the fate, but also like 200+ seals that could be then turned into items from grand company to sell on market board for profit. So, yes you can do the same thing on DoW/M. Just in a different way.

[Granyala]

I guess you could afk level it, but boy that would burn through so many materials and gil

I'm currently experimenting with macros for collectibles from NQ mats.
Yeah you can level DoH while being 99% AFK.