FF13 event items to be added to Mogstation

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I disagree with this entirely. I think that people should be able to experience events like this as they were intended to receive the items, and that putting them on the mogstation straight away just continues the lazy content trend. I'm rather worried that the go-to argument for unattainable event items seems to be mogstation rather than actually running the event again to lure back old subscribers and reward currently paying subscribers. This is content that some people have never seen, and cross-promotes other SE titles in the process.

Let's be honest. This event existed for the exclusive reason of promoting a PC port of another product Square produces, and had previously released several years ago on consoles. No one cares about Lightning, the event or anything beyond the cosmetic rewards associated with it. In fact, Final Fantasy XIII remains among the most divisive games in the series' history. From what I have heard from people-- including streamers-- the event itself was actually lazy and transparent to their actual motives. Which is perfectly fine, given it was free. But you're making it out like this were some monumental content update when it barely stretches ten minutes to shamelessly promote another game.

There is no reason to discard this content when SE can still add things like Slepnir

Actually, I would argue people would be infinitely more aggravated if Square began doing this than tossing old event glamours on the Cash Shop. You're essentially suggesting they design exclusive Cash Shop items. How is that better?

Aside from the fact that LR recently released on PC, I don't think anyone would particularly mind if these events were framed as a limited time opportunity to receive the items in question. Due to the randomness that the events could occur, it gives an additional incentive for people to remain subscribed and ready to take advantage of such opportunities. Especially if you were to frame them as fill-in events in-between each holiday season that have a much more limited time frame than they normally had.

Judging by the copious amount of threads made weekly, I think people mind.

I, personally, would be more incentivized by new content, not a shameless plug being repeated long beyond its relevancy. My interest in Lightning's event remains on her glamours. I couldn't care less about anything else. And I very much doubt I am the only one.

See above, nothing lazy about treating the events like very rare FATE pops that could randomly happen and allow those subscribed to take advantage of them. They wouldn't even have to advertise them really, simply tell people to be on the lookout for the quest npcs and let word of mouth do the rest.

This does not incentivize people, but rather annoy them. Instead of being able to buy the items on Cash Shop, they have to rely on RNG. As someone who crafts, RNG can go straight back to the hell it crawled out of. All this would do is likely have people skip through the dialogue super fast just to receive their glamour as they're frustrated from waiting.

Once again, people don't care about Lightning or her event. They simply want her glamour.

[MagiusNecros]

The truly lazy thing is no weapons for the new classes since they could only be bothered to make new weapon models for the current last phase in the Anima Weapon line. And most of these event things are one and done.

[Colorful]

The truly lazy thing is no weapons for the new classes since they could only be bothered to make new weapon models for the current last phase in the Anima Weapon line. And most of these event things are one and done.

If they added new weapons to the Mog Station you can bet there would be people complaining that it's not fair that they'll have to pay for those even if they participated in the event, and so on.

[MagiusNecros]

If they added new weapons to the Mog Station you can bet there would be people complaining that it's not fair that they'll have to pay for those even if they participated in the event, and so on.

People will complain either way. It's what they do.

[Jynx]

I'll stop my distaste of the cash shop as soon as there are on game means to attain everything available barring physical items and additional services.

No player friendly reason to not have all these items exist as gold saucer rewards.

[Reinha]

I'll stop my distaste of the cash shop as soon as there are on game means to attain everything available barring physical items and additional services.

No player friendly reason to not have all these items exist as gold saucer rewards.

Except having more and more things building up the Gold Saucer shopping list. Just as I was about to get the turtle they added dances and hairs. Still no turtle. Seriously, if every forum suggestion about adding items to Gold Saucer came true I'd never be able to grind enough MGP to catch up.

I would rather they designed new things for the game and filled the cash shop with old cosmetic items which have already appeared in game at some point. Missed Starlight 2015? Wee buy them in the Mog Station in 2017 (at which point Starlight has new stuff) and make sure not to miss any other events.

To be fair, he probably meant it as an option.

I see, my bad. A choice between the two would be fine imo.

[Zojha]

Except having more and more things building up the Gold Saucer shopping list.

To be fair, he probably meant it as an option.

Personally, if given the choice between cash shop and gold saucer, chances are I'll take the cash shop every time. I dislike the saucer, the flair of it and most of the minigames don't catch my interest either. I'm willing to pay just for the ability to spend less time in that bunny infested hellhole. But I see no issues in making it an option for people who want to get the stuff ingame, rather than pay in addition to monthly fees.

[Jynx]

To be fair, he probably meant it as an option.

To be honest if I had a choice I'd abolish the cash shop alltogether and make all it's content available within game through a variety of content. The stuff from the cash shop could be used to add longevity to content and help players set long term goals to achieve.

I personally find it counterproductive to sell vanity when you could use it to bolster subscriber longevity giving more time before people get burnt out grinding the same few peices of content because it's the only thing to provides a long term goal or tangible rewards.

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But yes as a compromise as long as there is a viable ingame alternative feel free to nickle and dime people all you want.

[Bixillarla]

To be honest if I had a choice I'd abolish the cash shop alltogether and make all it's content available within game through a variety of content. The stuff from the cash shop could be used to add longevity to content and help players set long term goals to achieve.

I personally find it counterproductive to sell vanity when you could use it to bolster subscriber longevity giving more time before people get burnt out grinding the same few peices of content because it's the only thing to provides a long term goal or tangible rewards.

No thank you, I have enough to grind for already don't need more to add to the list. I much prefer being able to purchase it and have it right away.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

To be honest if I had a choice I'd abolish the cash shop alltogether and make all it's content available within game through a variety of content. The stuff from the cash shop could be used to add longevity to content and help players set long term goals to achieve.

I personally find it counterproductive to sell vanity when you could use it to bolster subscriber longevity giving more time before people get burnt out grinding the same few peices of content because it's the only thing to provides a long term goal or tangible rewards.

While I certainly can't disagree with your idea since it promotes free stuff, it wouldn't add much longevity. Look at the tank mounts. Tanks will accumulate 200 full party raids just by playing their role at/past 50 with minimal effort. Stuff like Fenrir is just an annoying time sink that provides no actual challenge beyond your resolve to log in every day for mini-cacpot or do an ungodly amount of Triple Triad. Hell, even pony farming isn't really challenging. People go in at lvl60 and laugh at the Primals.