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    CrimsonThunder's Avatar
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    So how exactly will the Mentor System not be abused?

    Like, wasn't this the entire point of the bonus system for first timers that got comepletely by the community and now serves only to act as a witch hunt flag for farming groups?

    Something I'd like to see to combat nasty players abusing this is something akin to a personal rating system that new players can rate you on that all players can see. So if you have a bad average rating odds are new players will avoid you.
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    Doranaux Wavemet
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    Since we don't know what the mentor system is exactly or even if it has any rewards, we have no idea how (or if) it can be abused.
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    Shikiseki's Avatar
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    Akio Shikimazu
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    It probably will be abused but that's where we have to set a good example and use it to help new adventurers the best we can for them to be able to stand on their own feet.
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    Zetsumei Tsunarashi
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    Even if there are no rewards directly from the roulette itself. The fact that it's a feature to help new players means that whatever content you load into will probably have a new player tome bonus attached and I can see it being abused for that.

    I've seen relic farmers in PF actually offering Gil rewards so new players will invite them for the bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    Even if there are no rewards directly from the roulette itself. The fact that it's a feature to help new players means that whatever content you load into will probably have a new player tome bonus attached and I can see it being abused for that.

    I've seen relic farmers in PF actually offering Gil rewards so new players will invite them for the bonus.
    I'm actually a bit curious if something like, the new players need to vote if you were helpful or not at the end of the dungeon and you get a reward based on that would be abused in some way. I can see a tank or a healer holding a group hostage, but at the same time even if you say "I'll give you my vote" to get the party going you could easily just... not vote for them.
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    If the mentor system has any kind of reward including tomes or a currency, it will be abused. Give it just basic exp and hopefully only the good will come. Maybe remove exp bonus just to make sure lol
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    - have good rewards.
    - make it easy to get locked out of you are not helpful.
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    Claire Pendragon
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    I thought this was just a newer version of what they had in FFXI, where you "sign up" and then newer players were encouraged to so a "search all players" in a menu. Then you could filter out non mentors.

    Essentially just a person you could ask questions to, if they happen to be online. (not apart of duty finder)
    But then the key word of Roulette comes to mind, so it either picks a person to ask randomly (maybe hiding their name, to avoid problems if they dont want to be mentors) or like what ppl here suggest, its a dungeon roulette system.
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    Zetsumei Tsunarashi
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    Probably what will happen is SE will just make it a banable offense if you abuse the system. Since SE tends to wear rose colored glasses about these things (just look at current new player bonus, diadem, commendation bonus, etc.) I doubt there will be any built-in abuse countermeasures.
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    Waekswys Styrmwyn
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    In FFXI, a mentor flag was a sure sign that the player didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
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