Yoshi - Players who "Like" Challenges would ALSO like to obtain a Relic Weapon

[MasamuneBranford]

Very few people have the time to conquer the hardest challenges in the game AND complete the relic questilne. Yoshi - I think you are missing the appeal these weapons have to your playerbase. There is something appealing about a weapon that continues to evolve and is not tossed away every other patch. Relic weapons are the famed legendary Final Fantasy weapons (Excalibur, Masamune, etc.). These are weapons that almost every Final Fantasy fan would like to obtain. Thus why ONLY develop them for players with a ridiculous amount of time on their hands who are NOT looking for challenges?

I think the solution here is simple. Keep the relic questline as it is - but add alternative paths to get to the ultimate destination. An alternate path might be "Complete all of the Extreme Primal Trials and the Binding Coil of bahamut without echco and under their original item level caps." Not only does this make earlier content worthwhile again but it keeps a large chunk of the playerbase busy that does not want to spam beast tribe quests and farm gil on a daily basis. Neither path are easy - but this way you cater to all of your players as opposed to just the ones who do not like challenges and have lots of time on their hands.

[Felmyst]

You miss out the point. This is something you do on a year. And if you support this game. If you play other stuff well keep crying (rofl). However... the requirements for this one is way over the board.

[MasamuneBranford]

You miss out the point. This is something you do on a year. And if you support this game. If you play other stuff well keep crying (rofl). However... the requirements for this one is way over the board.

ummm what?

[Airinya]

You miss out the point. This is something you do on a year. And if you support this game. If you play other stuff well keep crying (rofl). However... the requirements for this one is way over the board.

Uhhh... a 3.15 relic was not meant to be done in a year. There will be another patch with another set of relic requirements in 3.25 - which will be here mush sooner than a year out.

Also, I think what people are arguing is that we don't want to grind the same crap we've been grinding since PRE-expansion to get a Heavensward relic and that there should be some different options for obtaining it.

[Cwestcott18]

The point of these weapons isn't about getting them quick, even if people have more time they might get done quicker, but that doesn't make them unobtainable by someone who doesn't have the same amount of time. Everyone wants one quickly, but as he has said they are time based and made for long term progression.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

Increased progress ratio over harder difficuty challenges. Sounds about fair if only the basis of it (the actual Relic Quest) had any difficulty at all.

The point of these weapons isn't about getting them quick, even if people have more time they might get done quicker, but that doesn't make them unobtainable by someone who doesn't have the same amount of time. Everyone wants one quickly, but as he has said they are time based and made for long term progression.

As if them being a long term goal was the problem. No one wants them quicker. What the community wants is to have fun. Is that hard of a concept to get? fun content? in a game? to have fun? playing... for fun...?

[Cwestcott18]

Increased progress ratio over harder difficuty challenges. Sounds about fair if only the basis of it (the actual Relic Quest) had any difficulty at all.



As if them being a long term goal was the problem. No one wants them quicker. What the community wants is to have fun. Is that hard of a concept to get? fun content? in a game? to have fun? playing... for fun...?

There are plenty of other things to do other than these weapons for fun, if you don't find these fun then go do something else in game, like the story and other side quests, this is for a item only.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

There are plenty of other things to do other than these weapons for fun

There is other fun content, so is ok then to make boring lazy content.

Ok.

[NolLacnala]

What the community wants is to have f-

We don't use the F word around here

[WinterLuna]

There are already enough ways to obtain the relic. You can do beast tribe quests, Alexander, law tomes, poetics tomes, and allied and centurio seals. This gives people a pretty good choice of how they want to obtain it.

You can still complete all of the extreme primals and coil and get tomes in the process, therefore it's still a way to obtain the weapon, whether it takes a while or not.