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  1. #31
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    Aushi's Avatar
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    1m a month? o.O It took me, I kid you not, like 6 months to even get to 1mil (and I'm at 800k not 1mil after buying decorations for le house). The only way I even own an FC house is because I only paid half of it. My FC is literally just my boyfriend and me, before they implemented personal housing and being able to share benefits etc. We don't craft or anything, so it took us a while to even SAVE for it. Tax would only push poorer players like myself to not own homes, and all the homes will be owned by them rich folks lol

    Usually, poorer players like myself, aren't very concentrated on hard core end game goals. I don't care about best gear, best weapon, top item level, etc. I enjoy the story and play it very casually for fun, it's usually players like myself that enjoy the housing as an end game more than the previous end game goals mentioned. Every random person I talk to who takes the game much more seriously than me, has a bunch of gil, barely cares about housing, whereas players like me *really* care about the fun of it. Punishing us for being able to own a home just because you couldn't, to discourage owning, isn't right o.O

    PS Im not saying hard core gamers don't enjoy housing, but I've noticed it's more common for casual gamers to be more attached to their housies.
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  2. #32
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    Nutritious Delicious
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    Quote Originally Posted by SundayTrash View Post
    With extreme lack of housing and refusal to add new ward base on generic format instead of server damand. Its time we need to disencourage ppl from owning a house by implementing properity tax. Withour implementing taxes how else would the 3 states of Eorzea maintenance their land, gil does not grow on trees; so how does 1-3 mill a month sound.


    Last I checked Property taxes were around 3% a year on the 'ole homestead on the Purchased value of the house in the US of Glorious A.

    I paid 1.2M on my humble small house.

    So figuring current tax rate in 'murica I would pay the Sultanate of Ul'dah 36,000 Gil a Year in Property Taxes or a Monthly amount of 3K Gil.



    Now my Free company house was much more expensive. 50M Gil

    at the same tax rate it would be 1.5M a Year or 125K Gil a month.
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    Last edited by Causality; 12-26-2015 at 03:24 PM.

  3. #33
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    Ulath Skullsplitter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    I live in the real world, and just like in the Goblet of Uldah **I DON'T PAY A PROPERTY TAX**. Don't assume that because you think it's okay that others will. I saved to buy my house in real life, just like I did in Eorzea (although I didn't need a mortgage in Eorzea!) through hard work and dedication. There was no rush in the Goblet because nobody wanted housing at the time and for ages I had my part of the ward to myself.
    Wait a minute. Not to derail this grand thread but how do you not pay property taxes in the real world? Different country? Here in America everyone who owns a house pays property tax. You could have your house paid off for 50 years and as soon as you miss your property tax payment the government will take your house. We are all just renting from the government.
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  4. #34
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
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    That is a terrible idea, why should every owner be punished because of some rich peoples exploitation on a few NA servers.

    Something does need to be done, however there is a better way to fix the issue
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  5. #35
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    NOOOOOPE.... 45 reclamation is fine, it just takes more than one day to see the benefit.
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  6. #36
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    I honestly hope this thread isn't serious..

    Why stop at 3m a month? why not just make it 20m a day just so you can get your house quicker cause thats clearly what the problem here is /s.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter View Post
    Wait a minute. Not to derail this grand thread but how do you not pay property taxes in the real world? Different country? Here in America everyone who owns a house pays property tax. You could have your house paid off for 50 years and as soon as you miss your property tax payment the government will take your house. We are all just renting from the government.
    That sounds crazy o.O
    It's your property after all! Here we pay taxes depending on how rich we are, and of course the value of your house is included in that (as well as many other things, like for example the value of machines your company owns..if you happen to own a company xD), so yeah I guess we also pay for our house a bit?
    But there is no particular tax related to it, especially not for
    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    decay or maintenance
    Why would that be the government's job in the first place? It's your house, YOU do the maintenance! That's expensive enough as it is...
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    That sounds crazy o.O
    It's your property after all! Here we pay taxes depending on how rich we are, and of course the value of your house is included in that (as well as many other things, like for example the value of machines your company owns..if you happen to own a company xD), so yeah I guess we also pay for our house a bit?
    But there is no particular tax related to it, especially not for

    Why would that be the government's job in the first place? It's your house, YOU do the maintenance! That's expensive enough as it is...
    I don't know what country u live in, here in US we pay Property taxes, and it may be ur job to do maintenance on ur property but who gonna do the road, but who is gonna cheap the streets clean?
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by SundayTrash View Post
    but who gonna do the road, but who is gonna cheap the streets clean?
    Partially...you as the house owner. You have to keep the sidewalk clean, free of snow, the drainage on the street free of dead leaves and so on. If you don't do it you have to pay a fine.
    Regarding maintenance of the road: we already pay tax on wages. That's where the government gets most of its money from. There is no specific "money X is gonna be used for task Y" rule in place (and why would there be? Non-home owners profit from well-kept roads too) so the whole budget is basically summed up and then it's getting decided what they need to spend it on - including road maintenance if there is a need for it.

    (Of course tax evasion is a crime and you can go to jail for it. But even then your house isn't taken away, so...the US once again amazes me with its weird way of handling things^^)
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    Last edited by Atoli; 12-26-2015 at 05:20 PM.

  10. #40
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    People like OP here need their idea privileges taken away. Horrible idea.
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