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    Player
    Noshpan's Avatar
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    Ganth Fyrion
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Yeah, the secondary stats on the Anima relics seems to be pure arse for the majority of the jobs in game. But, then, the Zodiac relic was exactly the same for most of its life. Hopefully there will be a customizable phase that is less painful than the Zodiac version.


    Ha! Who am I kidding?! It's going to be just as bad, if not worse! I can't believe that I managed to type that with a straight face!
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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    Nekodar's Avatar
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    Nyaano Nohea
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Want better weapon, do Thordan Ex or A4S... It's that simple.
    That's aside from unknown tank re-balance changes coming in 3.2.

    They can obviously not put the same stats on all weapons of the same tier.
    Some weapons BiS from Thordan, some other weapons BiS from A4S, some other BiS from relic quest... While it results in complaints from people like you, if A4S had all BiS stats and Thordan/Relic had strictly worse in all cases, there'd be much more complaining from people like you.
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    Culfinrandir's Avatar
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Leviathan
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Vinta View Post
    Oh my beautiful Omnilex with its... spell speed and determination... Yeah thanks SE for not giving my signature weapon its signature stat.
    Det was the most important stat for Fairy healing though in 2.x. I don't know if it still is as good in 3.x as they messed with stats so much that SCH is still not pinned down. Once the Omnilex was customisable most went for a crit/det, crit/acc or crit/det/acc build. Yeah, SS was cack in 2.x but a lot of our gear did have Crit, unlike much 3.x gear. =(
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Leviathan
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by lydiah View Post
    I think the goal is to mix and match different weapons and shields at same ilvl? Not sure tho.
    It seems like it, and PLD is the only job lucky enough to be able to do that given they abandoned shields for everyone else who had them.
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    It seems like it, and PLD is the only job lucky enough to be able to do that given they abandoned shields for everyone else who had them.
    Bring back the shields for mages...!
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    Rocond Valnor
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    The pld sword relic stats are this way because the Gordian Blade exists with Crit/Det. They were able to give the Thordan sword Crit/Det because it was 5 item levels lower. If they had made the Gordian Blade 215, they could have offered better stats on the 210 relic. The good news is that they stated they made that mistake and it will be different in Alexander Midas where the weapon will most likely be 5 ilvls higher (guessing) than tome.

    In summary, the development team feels that the difficulty level of Alexander: Gordias (Savage) and the item level of the rewards for this content were poorly set, and as a result it largely affected the content that came afterwards.

    Based on the feedback that we have been receiving, we will be lowering the difficulty of Alexander: Midas (Savage) that will be implemented in Patch 3.2, while simultaneously setting the item level of the Savage weapon and the item level of the new Allagan tomestone weapon to be different. We would like to revamp the overall balance moving forward with these changes.
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    Jim Berry
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    Malboro
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    Ninja Lv 90
    It don't bother me. I still enjoy my PLD for what it does as a tank. If I want to dps, that's what I have NIN for lol...
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    Quin Raines
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Let's look at all 3 of Paladin's 210 swords and compare it to the other two tanks here:

    Paladin:
    Gordian Blade: Crit+73, Det+49
    Hauteclaire: Parry+51, Det+69
    Almace: Crit+51, SkS+73

    Warrior:
    Gordian Axe: Det+68, SkS+102
    Parashu: Parry+71, Crit+102
    Ukonvasara: Crit+71, Det+97

    Dark Knight:
    Gordian Greatsword: Parry+102, Det+68
    Deathbringer: Crit+71, SkS+102
    Nothung: Crit+71, Det+97


    So I really don't see the issue here, each tank has a great weapon (for Paladin that is the Gordian Blade), an okay weapon (Almace) and an avoidable weapon (Hauteclaire). Are people really complaining that the anima weapon doesn't have the exact same stats as the A4S weapon, if stats mean that much to you then get a group and progress through A1S to A4S and get yourself that crit det weapon you want, I recommend it.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Or we could just make all stats good.
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    Alex Carver
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    I wish they'd fix Skill Speed. Almost every game with a haste stat and resource system correlate with each other, meaning haste always helps refill the resource not drag it down more. Prime examples are rogues/hunters/monks/DKs and demo locks in WoW, all of which can regain resource faster with more haste.
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