What is the be Healer?

[Rivxkobe]

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Isn't this a bit... much in reply to my post? >.>

It doesn't matter if SCH's have a spot in an end game group because they come from a DPS job, the fact is is that they have one. They are also needed because of their shields, which AST can NEVER match and their buffs. Which, minimally, makes them "better" than the other two healers. While they can't do everything as good as the other two, they are still at the top of the tier. Again, even though it is only minimal.

And, yeah, the OP didn't ask for specifics. So there is no reason to give specifics.

And to restate: SCHs are only minimally better.

[TatoRazzino]

Isn't this a bit... much in reply to my post? >.>

It doesn't matter if SCH's have a spot in an end game group because they come from a DPS job, the fact is is that they have one. They are also needed because of their shields, which AST can NEVER match and their buffs. Which, minimally, makes them "better" than the other two healers. While they can't do everything as good as the other two, they are still at the top of the tier. Again, even though it is only minimal.

And, yeah, the OP didn't ask for specifics. So there is no reason to give specifics.

And to restate: SCHs are only minimally better.

SCH's deployed shields weren't needed in A1S and A2S even at launch. I know because I cleared those fights with a WHM partner running AST in Diurnal before ilvl was inflated.

For A3S, the mechanic that supposedly requires shielding is Cascade, and you can't deploy Adlo for every single Cascade in A3S, so if this kind of shielding was needed the fight would be unbeatable. The only shielding you can keep up for all Cascades is Succor and the amount of shielding provided by Succor is slightly inferior to what is provided by Aspected Helios (by 7 potency, I know, but since we decided to split hairs in here, I'll give you that).

I can't vouch for A4S, but since there have been clears with Noct. AST instead of SCH, it's pretty much a given that Deployed Adlo is not required in there.

Deployed shields aren't needed in Thordan as well, since I cleared that fight with WHM/Noct. AST.

Also, a Deployed Shield is not going to save a fight going south unless you expect a Crit Adlo, which is RNG. If that was needed, fights would be unbeatable and no one in their right mind brings a SCH expecting crit Adlos. SCHs are used for their sustained DPS, NOT for their healing capabilities. A 300 potency shield (that's the value you have to expect from a Deployed Adlo) is not that different from a Noct. Aspected Helios enhanced by Synastry: 165+20%=198, and a 102 difference is less than 1K HP; if your party is wiping because of that, you have bigger problems, too big for shields to handle.

Being needed is different than being helpful, never forget that.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

They're all good for different reasons.
SCH mains just need to get off their high-horses a bit.

High horse? Hardly. For starters, I'm on the main healer seat for 90% (if not more) of the activity I do with my FC. Meaning I'm usually on White mage or Astrologian and rarely on Scholar. I suppose this doesn't define me as a main Scholar.

As for why Scholars are "the best" right now is quite simple: Scholars simply makes everything more forgiving. Any content can be done with any healer combination, but bringing a Scholar makes things easier for the entire group. It eases up the HP check requirement or allows groups to push for more damage. In 2.X Scholars had this severe weakness for AoE healing, but this has been somewhat addressed as of 3.0. They do not have the ability to continuously heal the group for that much, however. But the addition of Emergency Tactics and Indomitability is definitely a good addition to their healing kit. The only real issue for this particular area of expertise would be the terrible MP/recovery ratio of their AoE healing capacity.

Does this make the other healers sub-optimal or a inferior pick? Well, no. Scholars have a pretty bad heal/mp ratio on single target or is very GCD inefficient. The basic healing spell is the same as White Mage's, but Adloquium is by far the most expensive spell. Obviously, you don't spam Adloquium to top someone off as with Cure II or Benefic II. Thus this makes their single target healing GCD inefficient. You could argue that the fairy's there to help buffer up the GCD inefficiency. But if that fairy's there for you, it's also there for the other healer.

So why not bring two Scholars if "they're the best"? Simply because the scholar-scholar synergy is terrible compared to whm/sch or ast/sch. I mentioned before that any job combination can be done for any content. But depending on the combination the gear check will be relatively high, compared to White Mage or Astrologian with a Scholar. Not convinced? Go into King Thordan EX with two White Mages with entry requirement equipment and see if your group can survive Ultimate End.

[Amiaze]

As others have stated, it really depends on the player and what you enjoy doing the most.

I main AST and mained WHM, but I do not have SCH to 60. This is because I don't like the idea of managing a pet or relying on a pet to help me do my job; I like to be in control of something that could make or break the party. I know, your pet is within your control, but the idea just doesn't sit well with me.

I use WHM for "pure" heals and good DPS output. I feel safe using it because its heals are so potent, so it's some peace of mind when I don't know who my co-healer will be. It also allows me to micro-manage things and switch to Cleric Stance to DPS. With AST, I micro-manage less and am constantly healing/buffing/shuffling through cards/DPS, all in turn.

So if you don't like automatically switching to a DPS when not healing and are okay with trying to manipulate RNG, I would say go AST. If you're okay with only switching between healing and DPSing, go WHM or SCH. WHM is more reactive healing while SCH is more proactive, and I prefer the former. (I also don't like going into Nocturnal Sect as AST because it is considered to be the "SCH" stance.)

[TheWaywardWind]

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Read the post above yours, thxbai.

[Naylia]

There's only one rotation for healing:

Regen -> Holy -> Holy -> Holy -> Holy -> Holy -> Holy...shit I'm out of mp... hope that Regen keeps the tank alive...

[Immut]

There's only one rotation for healing:

Regen -> Holy -> Holy -> Holy -> Holy -> Holy -> Holy...shit I'm out of mp... hope that Regen keeps the tank alive...

You forgot presence of mind.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

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Read the post above yours, thxbai.

TataRazzino post had minor things I didn't care to respond about. As it's not entirely wrong, but not entirely correct either. Your post, however, lacks proper elaborate explanation of any kind aside from "getting off high horses". Which gives off a vibe of certain degree of saltiness. But to humor you, I'll share my thoughts about TataRazzino's post right here - Nothing against you TataRazzino, but TheWaywardwind has no own opinion to quote on right now.

Scholars are pretty much guaranteed a spot for endgame content. However, not because they're branching off a DPS class. But for their entire kit. Scholars may struggle in the main healer seat in A3S due to that kit, but it doesn't mean it's impossible. Because their single target healing is GCD inefficient doesn't mean it prevents them from doing so. This inefficiency is balanced off with Aetherflow abilities. But as this is tied to 3 abilities/minute, this makes them resource restricted aside from MP. Does this mean Scholars are capable of everything? Yes, it does. But so are every other healing jobs.
Any healing job can heal (duh)
Any healing job has the ability to AoE heal
Any healing job has access to different forms of mitigation
Any healing job can deal damage
However, not every healing job can buff the group

But not every job is equal in these departments. You could call them into (sub-)optimal choices for certain needs for certain encounters.

Nearly every content requires two healers right now and any content that can be accessed through duty finder is designed - Or should be, at least - for any healing job combination. If it wasn't, it would have specified particular slots for certain jobs. Not just for healers, mind you. But Scholars can effectively ease up the HP check requirements for contents and, to a lesser extend, so can Astrologians. So again, if you're not convinced, go into Thordan EX at entry requirements with two White Mages.
But there are two sides of the coin in this story. If the meta would change that removes one healer, that would mean the total healing capacity would be lowered to an extend any healer can manage. You could say White Mages would be out of a job instead. They possess no tools to buff up the total group contribution, after all. Or in context of previous paragraph: White Mage would become a sub-optimal pick.

Lastly, the OP never specified the act of healing itself:

I\\\\'m training healer classes, so I wanna know what you think. What is the best healer in the game right now.

[Sunako]

Sch is only healer that not run out mana while doing dps.

[TatoRazzino]

I never said it was impossible for a SCH to solo heal fights. I said it's harder, as it should be. SCH is far from broken and people overestimate their toolkit. They're the only job built to off-heal optimally and are also the only job to have bad solo healing capabilities. Their cooldowns and stacks barely make up for things that the other two healers have built in their GCDs in the first place. So, no, SCHs are not overpowered nor required; they're widely used because they add sustained DPS and that's it. Change fights design a little bit (which SE will for Alexander 2, since a lot of people are leaving the game because Alexander 1) and you'll see SCHs losing their fixed spot. One example: one indomitability + one ET Succor adds a total of 700 potency in heal. WHM alone can reach that with Medica II, and adding anything beyond that will simply crush SCH's numbers anytime of the day. "Oh, but there's Eos!" At the moment, the potency for the fairy's skills doens't scale in the same way the SCH's potency does and you'll get less than 500 potency from Whispering Dawn in AoEs, which Asylum can cover easily. "Oh, but I can Rouse it and I can use Fey Illumination!" Yes, you can burn two more cooldowns (apart from the two you already burned to get your Succor to not shield and your Indomitability (which also consumed one stack, lowering the amount of Lustrates you can do in that minute) to match what a WHM could do with one spell + one skill. Add Divine Seal to the equation, and SCH will be destroyed healingwise. The extra GCDs and cooldowns WHM didn't use can be spent in Cleric Stance to add some burst DPS. I won't even discuss AST, because I made my point. If you're a good SCH and feel like you can rule the world, just know that skilled players use the other two healers as well and we can do things with one key press while you must use four our five to hope you catch up.