Thread: 3.2 Sephiroth

Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

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Would also like to add that clearing the Lv. 50 SCH quest before unlocking Wanderer's Palace HM results in different dialogue from the two adventurers in that quest, from what I can tell. They make a remark about how you already know the story of the Tonberries there.

There isn't any changes to the BLM 50-60 quests if your already a WHM. Your WHM status isn't mentioned.

Tbh, I kinda hope Alexander will receive the same treatment in FFXIV than it did in Type-0.

Goes up, destroys everything, kills everyone who summoned it by consuming their life over time. Big ass ending fight with the core while Illuminati goblins are losing their lives and begging us to save them. Enrage timer is when the last goblin dies.

Now THAT would make it a bit more interesting (both in lore and raid mechanics) for me.

I think one of the issues with Primals on an End of an Era scale is simply put the WoL is kind of screwed against something of that scale. It requires something of a similar scale to take it down in that situation which pulls control out of our hands usually.

That said, it would have been cool if when Alex came out of the lake, where his foot landed all the plant life phased to be dead.

Originally Posted by Belhi

I think one of the issues with Primals on an End of an Era scale is simply put the WoL is kind of screwed against something of that scale. It requires something of a similar scale to take it down in that situation which pulls control out of our hands usually.

They don't need to go causing a Calamity, but it would be nice if they did something... Heavensward actually did an OK job of that I guess, Ravana and Shiva had a nice little fight, and Bismarcks second introduction had him eating islands and fighting Garleans... One thing I'd love to see done, jumping off the back of IXs Atomos, is for SE to set up a two versions of a zone; One is an instance version of, lets say Ishgard (since it is actually fairly similar to Lindblum), that you first encounter. Then a Primal shows up, wreaks the place, and you gain access to the "real" version. Ishgard is actually a pretty good example for this, we can tell it was attacked by dragons, right? Sure, but we don't know what it looked like before, we don't know how the people of the Brume were doing, we're lacking context in that regard, and I think an "instanced" version of the city pre-destruction would be a nice way to give us context and highlight the threats we face...

Then there are places we don't visit... Remember how there is a Castrum off in the distance if you look out from Monument Tower? Slap something like that in the distance of the Hinterlands. Alexander pops up, have him destroy it instantly. Done, he is established as an actual threat; We don't want him doing that to Idyllshire. Bit harder to work something like that for the Warring Triad, I suppose, given their containment, but there is no reason we cannot have him display his strength in cutscene or combat. One reason I'm fairly fond of Regula is his boss fight in the Research Facility, we see him deal with a bunch of enemies alone. His actual fight leaves something to be desired, but the introduction was spot on. Meanwhile, most every Primal just pops up and goes (themselves or through exposition) "Haha! I'm going to do something bad!". It's just rubbed me the wrong way for too long now...

Just another reason I want FC Summoning/Roaming Primals, I suppose. That's an easy way to give them an actual presence, enemies in Diadem or the odd Hunt target honestly cause me more worry that Primals at this point. Diadem mobs are the bane of my Botanist/Miners existence, meanwhile Primals are a joke because I only ever encounter them with a group... The Odin FATE is perhaps my favorite iteration of a Primal because of this; He displays more character in that FATE than most of his peers, and he is (or was, I haven't had the fortune to encounter him post-Heavensward) actually a serious "challenge". The Odin FATE seemed like a real skirmish with a God, while most of the Trials are more like a dance, often with a toddler throwing a tantrum. Take that as a put down for the Primals personalities, or your average Duty Finder party, it works both ways...

Well there could be engine restrictions at work there. There may be a limit to how effectively they can phase the game terrain. Likewise there is issues with having multiple instanced versions of the same area as it can split up the player base. Id say the only time it would work ok is in situations like dungeons where the dungeon is the first time you see the location and after the dungeon it opens up in its aftermath state.

Personally I did find Alexander somewhat underwhelming and frankly the fact that he is about at least 4 or 5 times smaller in the game world than he would have to be for us to have the space we have inside the raid also kind of throws me off.

As for Primals, while Alex feels a bit underwhelming, I think Bismarck was certainly handled well and Thordan's fight was incredibly epic.