Thread: The Current Status of FFXIV Patch 3.1 and How to Address it Moving Forward

Originally Posted by Velhart

Update me, what about legendary weapons?

Pardon the phone post. They didn't do legendary weapons, but instead went for armor pieces or accessories. However, the premise of the equips in regards to stats and effects justify its legendary status and the process of obtaining it. The questline is still comparable to relic in the sense that it's an evolving story that gives you a progressively stronger reward. The dps capes in MoP can easily make up about 10% of your dps on a single target, and it's an aoe effect. You needed to do raid content, but it allows for lfr difficulty, and other objectives like solo scenarios and pvp, but the reward for each step was objectively BiS for that tier of the patch

Originally Posted by Alahra

As far as I know, everyone is getting an Artifact Weapon in the newest expansion,

The artifact weapon in Legion is more of a "weapon that levels with you", than an endgame weapon quest. It's similar to bns weapon if you played that. You get it at level 100 and you keep it with your journey to 110. I wouldn't say it's the same context as the relic quest in Ffxiv or legendary quest in wow

Originally Posted by Alahra

It was my understanding that it's going to continue getting more powerful past level 110, though. Like I said, I don't follow WoW too closely, so I could be wrong about that.

It'll most likely get increases in statistical power through items and more customization points as you down content. Though the concept being it is still different than the approach of a relic, where the latter is another means to the highest Ilvl weapon, while the former is a layer of customization and a tool that you use for the leveling process and onward. I wouldn't compare wow legendary/artifact to Ffxiv artifacts because they both have different results and most likely the intended purpose of it when you actually finish it

Originally Posted by RiceisNice

It'll most likely get increases in statistical power through items and more customization points as you down content. Though the concept being it is still different than the approach of a relic, where the latter is another means to the highest Ilvl weapon, while the former is a layer of customization and a tool that you use for the leveling process and onward. I wouldn't compare wow legendary/artifact to Ffxiv artifacts because they both have different results and most likely the intended purpose of it when you actually finish it

Yeah it's totally not fair to compare WoW and FF14's legendary weapons/gear to each other. Or even their differences in gear at all for that matter.

Originally Posted by RiisWolf

Yeah it's totally not fair to compare WoW and FF14's legendary weapons/gear to each other. Or even their differences in gear at all for that matter.

I disagree with you and Rice. While different, I find the weapon as proposed fulfills the same niche as the relic (for me at least). The Artifact weapons are one of the most drawing reasons that I've pre-purchased Legion, and the relic disappointment is one of the biggest reasons that I only log on to FFXIV for raid nights now.

Originally Posted by Kaurie

I disagree with you and Rice. While different, I find the weapon as proposed fulfills the same niche as the relic (for me at least). The Artifact weapons are one of the most drawing reasons that I've pre-purchased Legion, and the relic disappointment is one of the biggest reasons that I only log on to FFXIV for raid nights now.

The relic weapons are just another form of end game equipment you can work towards. It's not so much of an evolving weapon if it can be comparable to upgrading your weapon slot with each raiding tier, which the relic honestly feels like to me with the lack of background involvement and the significance of the weapon itself, both as an individual equipment and lore.

Personally I have a few issues with the Legion Artifact.

1. Its the only weapon you will get so its not really even a true weapon. You actually equip items to your relic to increase its ilvl, etc. No alternative weapons are available in Legion so you better like what you get.

2. You can only get one Artifact per characters before you hit 110. That means if you want to play a healer in dungeons and endgame you are going to have to quest as a healing spec cause no dps weapon will be available for an off spec before hiting 110.

3. The devs have very clearly stated the entire Artifact system exists only for Legion and will be abandoned in the next expansion, returning to the original weapon system. There will be no follow up. As unsatisfying as the FF14 relic quests are to a lot of people, at least the continuation credited you for what you had done with relics in the past.

To be honest it is 1 and 2 which I don't like. A number of the artefact weapon types really don't appeal to me. Further I hate questing in a healing spec.

Of course for me the biggest issue with legion is I cant stand Blizzards storytelling. They just cant keep consistent. My issues with the Artifacts are just a side issue.

In truth the Artifact system isn't really much like the anima/relic system in FF14. Its a very different setup.

After the video from the letter of the producer, what are everyone's thoughts? I myself did not see it, but I read the notes, and am in a wait and see approach with 3.2, but there is nothing that's really grabbed my attention.