Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
It's a time gate of 5 dungeon runs for a fresh 60 because of law bonuses, less so if they actually get dungeon drops. You're severely overestimating the amount of time commitment you need to get to i170.
Whos overestimating 170? Did you not read the part about no one wanting someone below i200 (as is the case on my server anyway)? I wasn't even talking about alex normal. All alex normal is at this point is another step towards obtaining actual raiding gear (eso or void ark), you could potentially use it to fill some slots like jewelry but it still lowers your ilvl. You can find groups that are just starting savage that could let you join below ilvl200 but that's rare. I've seen only 1 PF recruiting a ilvl190 or higher tank that was just starting savage. Suppose I could get a group for thordian but that's only one piece of the pie. I refuse to touch diadem at this time. I guess thats whats holding me back .