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  1. #61
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    Figure8's Avatar
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    Figure Eight
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    Tonberry
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Oh and...
    - Maybe trim down the quests from previous expansion, since there are, literally hundreds of quests at level 50 which are pretty obsolete at this point, and an endless/pointless grind. They include quests that can't be soloed (need a queue) and if you don't have people to run you through them you'll be in queues for days (literally). I know many new players who hit a frustration limit and stall/quit at 50.
    - I don't raid on max difficulty but from what I've seen on twitch and youtube, raids are essentially just a DPS check where there is just 1 healer (who is also DPS-ing) and tanks in strength gear just to meet a numbers check.

    Cheers.
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  2. #62
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    Chaosgrimm Winsock
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    The "time" factor of relics wouldn't be an issue if the content required was "fun".

    /Unsubbed
    Imma go have fun
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  3. #63
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    ShiloEET's Avatar
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    Nykova Williams
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Ok, that's great and all but will we have to beat Gordias (Savage) to do the new raid content?
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    I don't think anyone can stop me anymore, except for god"...

  4. #64
    Player Kaiser-Ace's Avatar
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    Kai Magnus
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    The "time" factor of relics wouldn't be an issue if the content required was "fun".
    I second this emotion.
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  5. #65
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    Iromi's Avatar
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Siren
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    Marauder Lv 50
    It saddens me that he did not address the main issue , we want NEW content for relic not go back and carry people though old content! I wish the entire player base realized this. I refuse to carry anyone..so I ONLY do my relic stuff with FC members only. Imagine if no one did the old trials and stuff..how would new people progress? They would get frustrated and probably quit. Meh...need to find another way to entice people to do old content, not relic..which is a classic Final Fantasy item that is not meant to be gimp by any means.

    Well, at least he said they read the feedback...hopefully they check this thread. NEW CONTENT PLEASE not old carry stuff ^^;
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  6. #66
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    NolLacnala's Avatar
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    Nol Lac'nala
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Players who were seeking difficult content welcomed this...
    You shouldn't consider "raged and disbanded after first clear" to be a welcoming response towards content
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  7. #67
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Unaki View Post
    I'm not sure where people are getting that Relic is always meant to be BiS. Gear is outdated with every new patch, relic or not. Relics are also not meant to be BiS either, they're designed as an alternative to the top endgame equipment. The logic in your complaints here falls off because this isn't a "one and done" piece of equipment and will instead constantly be evolving between major patches and most likely eventually being customizable so that someone who put in the time can have a BiS weapon without ever raiding. Once again, this is a horizontal upgrade path, not a vertical one and is designed to catch a person up if they choose not to do savage.

    Want to spend less time and get your best gear available? GO DO SAVAGE! That's what its there for.
    I feel you misunderstand the person you quoted. They are concerned that the Relic is always going to be a lower ilvl than the raid weapon. Therefore, it is not an alternative as you suggest, as it will be vastly inferior.
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  8. #68
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    Maelor Tormren
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    Goblin
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    [QUOTE=Rynia;3494799]So Yoshi-P didn't address the real issue with relics at all, which is the question of why they were pushed back to 3.15.

    <Insert what she said here from her post>



    They didn't mess up...
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  9. #69
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    Maelor Tormren
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    Goblin
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    <Insert post text here>

    Relic should not be a lower level catch up weapon. They SHOULD take a long time to obtain. Basically all of your complaints make no sense.
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  10. #70
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    Definitelynot Godbert
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    Behemoth
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Will not be the strongest weapon at the same time as the rewards for clearing the hardest difficulty content.
    WAR BiS is Anima. Nice job.

    Clearing the hardest difficulty content will not require you to obtain Zodiac/Anima weapons.
    You guys did do this correctly.

    Creating these weapons will require you to put in effort over a longer period of time.
    Players were getting their Relics 2-3 days after release.

    BTW, super stoked about the new Primals. Hearing that the guy who did ThEX and TEX doing the new one excites me. Although, I have enjoyed almost every single Primal fight (the music is always so GOOD!).
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