Thread: The Current Status of FFXIV Patch 3.1 and How to Address it Moving Forward

Originally Posted by Ibi

What would be nice would be if we weren't left guessing about it though.

Might be because they do not know themselves. Or they don't want to jump the gun then change it again before patch release.

Can we stop designing content with everybody and nobody in mind.

Relic was always a hardcore weapon throughout all the FF series I don't know why that had to change. The original relic at the start was fun had small challenging fights Hydra and Chimera then it got more challenging with the primals, after that it faded off to a complete chore of going over the same content over and over again.
Also you say you didn't want us to have hard fights yet made the primals an option for collecting the lights. I don't mind the weapon having small/medium grinds but break it up with NM fights in between. We already have a weapons to grind on for casuals and those are the weapons available from tomes.

During the times of FF 11 SE was known for making some of the most difficult bosses in MMORPGS this is what most people have come to expect. The thing that drove players away from 11 was grinding, please don't make the same mistake. Also I know you guys have the imagination to make things easy and challenging at the same time or have you forgotten about things like Parradamo Tor. The game is also too predictable the same thing every update from 2.0 onwards crystal tower type raid > a new primal > coil type. Diadem looked really fun at first would of been better with trigger pop NMS though in my opinion.

Also please remove the silly caps of 1 per week or x amount of tomes etc. I would rather pay more for an item and be able to get it at whatever pace I want to.

Originally Posted by Xellos2099

TBH the relic grind is easy compare to the original stage where we need to farm up 75 alex and 75 materia.

It isn't really about how much grinding you have to do. It is how SE's structures these relic quests in general. Grind is a given, it has to exist in some form with a quest like this. Creating interesting content in between the grinds is what helps it not feel like only a painfully repetitive chore. There is no fun to be had in this at all. It is even more sad that SE says it has to be not fun. We know they are very capable of doing a fun relic quest line, 2.0's first reilc quest is a show of this. Now its built specifically for people who can't handle even the simplest of content. People not willing to hit more than one button.

It is sad, the dev team should be working on ways to influence people to challenge themselves, not just dropping the difficulty or just simply grind to win. Put some Chimeras and Hydras back into the relic quests. Have primals be relevant in some way. You release Bismark EX and it is dead content on arrival, only serving the purpose at the time before you changed it as a gateway to Ravana EX. Throw them into the mix. Why are you even getting an ilvl210 weapon in the first place if you are not even going to use it for content like this?