Thread: The Current Status of FFXIV Patch 3.1 and How to Address it Moving Forward

Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

2.X did the same exact thing. Relics were never going to be good as raid weapons since raid weapons takes tight skill and dedication in end game content while relics are made for people who simply have a lot of time and can't/won't do raids.

Given that so many were tired of the grind of similar content going into 3.15, the current implementation of anima doesn't feel like the right answer, it does seem like a scam still.

Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

2.X did the same exact thing. Relics were never going to be good as raid weapons since raid weapons takes tight skill and dedication in end game content while relics are made for people who simply have a lot of time and can't/won't do raids.

They had alternated between raiding being better than relic and relic being the same ilvl as raiding during their releases. Yoshi-P mentioned a while back that relics, when added on after a raid tier has been introduced, will be the same ilvl as the raid weapons (see Nexus versus HA, and zeta versus dreadwyrm).

Though that's still not really a good reason for the content they come up with to utilize more old content (even by the game's standard, since we're revisiting 2.x content), especially in consideration to the delay.

Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

2.X did the same exact thing. Relics were never going to be good as raid weapons since raid weapons takes tight skill and dedication in end game content while relics are made for people who simply have a lot of time and can't/won't do raids.

This isn't exactly true. In the first step of the 2.x relic, you were required to beat hard content (Titan hard). By the 5th step to the 8th step, you were able to customize the weapon to the stats that you wanted.

For reference Relic --> Zenith --> Atma --> Animus --> Novus --> Nexus --> Zodiac Braves --> Zodiac Zeta

Originally Posted by UBERHAXED

I think the point was to make crafting relevant since the whole "craft for other crafters" is circular.

I am not sure if that is true or not, but either way it was a very stupid band-aid approach. All it is doing is transferring gil from people who don't craft to those who do. These items, to my understanding, are actually pretty easy to craft. They're not even making it challenging for the crafters, and they're not making the majority of things they craft useful - just a few random things.

I don't see this any different to them making a drop from A1S be part of it, and it be tradeable - so that raiders could do it and then sell it for millions of gil. It's just catering to one subset of the playerbase without any real rhyme or reason.

Originally Posted by Theplatter

While I agree with the rest of your points, we only had to beat Titan hard mode for the first step, not Titan Extreme.

Oops! Thanks for catching that! Edited.

Originally Posted by Kemas

I was anti anima but once I quit being dramatic and started doing the quest gradually it was easy to make progress and really not as traumatic as people make it seem. Yes it could be better, but the big time investment for this stage will hopefully mean the future stages will require less time/money. And after all- isn't that what makes the relics valuable in the first place? Not everyone will invest the time to complete it.

Why are you hoping the next stages will be better? What basis do you have for this?