Stop Asking for Open World Content

[Felis]

None of the treasure maps require 8 people to do... let alone 8 people actually playing their class accordingly.

neverless the max is 8.
treasure maps are open world and you can't zerg them with 20 full parties.

It was also only an example of open world content that is not zerged because only 1-8 players can do it together.

[SpookyGhost]

Treasure Maps aren't crap, they just need better rewards.

I agree with this, treasure maps were fun solo and group content to do even if they weren't all that challenging. They could give us a set of maps that were actually pretty difficult and required some level of coordination and awareness while also increasing the rewards. It'd be cool if, similar to the minions, there were vanity sets exclusive to the individual tiers of treasure maps.

[Felis]

How SE can build on them:

Different treasure maps, that not only have level and party size recommendations, but also ilevel recommendations to add more different difficulty tiers to them that increase wih the gears ilevel each patch.
As an example buying an ilevel 200 treasure map with eso tomes after all eso gears got bought.
A way to find ilevel 220 maps in 3.2
And so on.

[Callback]

Do you enjoy any MMOs? That's like getting upset at the Civilization line of game-play because it isn't real time. Or complaining about FPS games being too twitchy. They are part and parcel for the genre.

There's tons of MMOs out there with better combat systems. I feel bad for you if all you've ever experienced are other WoW clones.

[Felis]

There's tons of MMOs out there with better combat systems. I feel bad for you if all you've ever experienced are other WoW clones.

Do you mean the tabbing between targets? It is more a traditional system. FF XI had it also and nobody would call FF XI a WoW clone.

Not every MMO can have a modern combat system not older than 4 years (the action-combat trend in MMOs started around 2011?).

But what the devs can do is bringing more bosses with multiple target points. Where we have to weaken the boss with attacking specific parts of his body (like attacking the legs so the boss fall down and lying on the ground for a while).

[Kosmos992k]

But what the devs can do is bringing more bosses with multiple target points. Where we have to weaken the boss with attacking specific parts of his body (like attacking the legs so the boss fall down and lying on the ground for a while).

Agreed.

...and In b4 "ps3 limitations" I'd like to point out that White Knight Chronicles1 & 2 on the PS3, which was more MMORPG than most credit it being, had staggers and breaks, so it should not be difficult for SE to implement this kind of thing in FFXIV. Personally I would love it.

WKC Breaks

Here is an example of breaking a dragon's back and tail for additional drops. This is from one of WKCs online quests, and the players appear to have pretty decent end-game gear. First they stagger the draggon by attacking one knee, then hit it's head while it's staggered. It falls over. They attack the back for a bonus item drop - usually a rare one - then the dragon recovers and they switch to attacking it's tail, which also breaks for another bonus drop - also usually a rare one. The specific section I'm talking about starts at about 0:35 and continues through 1:15 or so.

https://youtu.be/C-N1y8ber4o

This is a PS3 game from 2010-2012, so please no one blame PS3 for Square Enix not adding this type of mechanic to their fights.

[Kewitt]

The problem with open world content is it is made for causal use. But not enough people do it. So DEV make it important to do!. Then Causal content end up getting SPAMMED by EVERYONE.. Causal hate it because it's not causal anymore. Hard core players hate it because it not hard core. The people in between care less because they aren't causal players so the content is mostly not worth it. Yet not Hard core enough to do it. instead randomly doing it when in the right place at right time.

[Callback]

Do you mean the tabbing between targets? It is more a traditional system. FF XI had it also and nobody would call FF XI a WoW clone.

Not every MMO can have a modern combat system not older than 4 years (the action-combat trend in MMOs started around 2011?).

But what the devs can do is bringing more bosses with multiple target points. Where we have to weaken the boss with attacking specific parts of his body (like attacking the legs so the boss fall down and lying on the ground for a while).

I never played XI so I can't say what type of combat it has, but action combat in MMOs goes back to 2004 and earlier, and has widely diversified since then. Nowadays basically every genre of game has an MMO equivalent. You would think that the archaic point-and-click system would have fallen out of favor long ago with the invention of broadband, but lazy devs just keep on recycling it over and over.

[TouchandFeel]

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Agreed. I have been wishing for a while now that they would do more content utilizing the treasure maps system that was more fleshed out and had more depth to it than what we have had so for, with more complex enemies and encounters being spawned, better rewards and more ways to engage in treasure maps/hunts. Things such as this would be a great addition to open world content as well as potentially being added to future Exploration Missions.

In fact I would love to see an entirely new set of side content like hunt bills but tied to a new group, the Treasure Hunter's Guild (with Locke Cole as the leader of course) from which you can get "leads" on treasures that you can go out and find via the treasure map / hunt system and then get loot and a currency that you can turn in for special rewards same as seals.