Stop Asking for Open World Content

[Azazua_azura]

Im not going to lie, making the world more and more open is a great idea, but its going to take time. To do more, we're going to have to wait for the ps3 cut off date. Right now its just not possible.

Quoting u because you have the best siggy ever


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[Pison]

Actually, don't stop asking for Open World content ... in fact, don't stop asking for anything at all. Most of everything people will ask for will, almost always, get ignored. But it helps the community and the team grow together - to get all these ideas and thoughts out there for people to brainstorm over. No matter how strange the request, it could always spark a creative thought to help the game grow into a new direction and give ideas to the right people to make new and interesting things happen. What you shouldn't do is ask for something without any context; for instance, simply stating you want open world PvP without anything to add to it. Actually throw ideas out there, events and such that could make such a thing interesting and fun to play through rather than just for the sake of sneaking up on someone and stabbing them in the back. Don't tell them that you want them to think of better ideas for dungeons/raids/trials without adding any ideas for it yourself for people to break down and discuss.

Throw some big ideas out there, let people discuss them, and allow it to spark some new creativity in the minds of others.

[Immut]

how bout no. does no work for you?

[Nektulos-Tuor]

I don't see any Open World Content yet.

We need Contested Dungeons.

[Kosmos992k]

I don't see any Open World Content yet.

We need Contested Dungeons.

We need contested nothing. Adding content that is camped by the same players with more time than most, isn't going to help the overworld feel more open, though it might just give those players something to epeen with.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

We need contested nothing. Adding content that is camped by the same players with more time than most, isn't going to help the overworld feel more open, though it might just give those players something to epeen with.

Actually it will make it feel more real. Also, if an area can be camped then the "Contested" Dungeon failed. Everquest 2 KoS/EoF are a good example of preventing camping because eventually if you stood in the same spot for long periods your group would be overwhelmed. The "regular mobs." in contested zones were as hard as names were, some of them were "names" from older zones as well.

The Average Vampire in EQ2's Mistmoore Castle, would knock you back, drain your life, mezmorize your healer, break aggro and go after your healer and knock them back as well.

Getting Knocked back a little bit, was a death sentence because you had to really watch your aggro. You could only pull 2 vampires max at a time or it was surely a wipe. In a room filled with 100s.

Also, the excuse is and always will be bad. There is plenty of content for "I can only play 30 minute a day Joe".

Nothing is more real then going into a dungeon and seeing other groups there. It makes the dungeon immersive, and also makes it so you can make a huge dungeon with nameds spread all over the place.

Your one of the reasons MMOs are so boring now honestly. Literally shoving everything into instances is killing games. MMOs should have NO instances whatsoever. The only reason it would be cramped is it would be the only contested dungeon in the game because its *gasp* actually fun to corporate and have to actually speak to other players.


In a contested dungeon, you have to speak to your group. You have to make sure nobody screws up and pulls for you or makes mistakes. You have to keep up, you can't be half-afk you have to be paying attention.

That is probably why most people hate it. Nobody likes paying attention or talking to other players. I imagine the average Duty Finder player is watching netflix with a nostromo running a rotation macro.

[Bashum]

Actually it will make it feel more real. Also, if an area can be camped then the "Contested" Dungeon failed. Everquest 2 KoS/EoF are a good example of preventing camping because eventually if you stood in the same spot for long periods your group would be overwhelmed. The "regular mobs." in contested zones were as hard as names were, some of them were "names" from older zones as well.

The Average Vampire in EQ2's Mistmoore Castle, would knock you back, drain your life, mezmorize your healer, break aggro and go after your healer and knock them back as well.

Getting Knocked back a little bit, was a death sentence because you had to really watch your aggro. You could only pull 2 vampires max at a time or it was surely a wipe. In a room filled with 100s.

Also, the excuse is and always will be bad. There is plenty of content for "I can only play 30 minute a day Joe".

Nothing is more real then going into a dungeon and seeing other groups there. It makes the dungeon immersive, and also makes it so you can make a huge dungeon with nameds spread all over the place.

Your one of the reasons MMOs are so boring now honestly. Literally shoving everything into instances is killing games. MMOs should have NO instances whatsoever. The only reason it would be cramped is it would be the only contested dungeon in the game because its *gasp* actually fun to corporate and have to actually speak to other players.


In a contested dungeon, you have to speak to your group. You have to make sure nobody screws up and pulls for you or makes mistakes. You have to keep up, you can't be half-afk you have to be paying attention.

That is probably why most people hate it. Nobody likes paying attention or talking to other players. I imagine the average Duty Finder player is watching netflix with a nostromo running a rotation macro.

Vanguard SOH had a good solution for this, even though the game itself was buggy as hell.

MASSIVE dungeons, with named mobs all over the place, so you'd often run into other groups, however the ultra rare bosses would give you a lockout after you'd killed it once within a set period, 24 hours for regulars, and 7 days for uber raid bosses. You could still see the mob, but it would show up as ghostly and unattackable, as well as non-aggro until your lockout timer expired.

It would respawn relatively quickly too, so it didn't really exclude anyone from content.

Some of our raid nights were literally just going around to different places in the world and engaging whatever raid bosses were up at the time.

[Yukiko]

It is always crap. Always. Just look at the joke of Hunts and Fates. When I play a game I want to be immersed in the experience... not be watching Netflix so I don't cry tears of boredom.

FFXIV 1.0 already proven you wrong! Point.

[Felis]

open world content is bad? No
open world conten with unlimited participants is bad? yes

SE should build up the battle leves again (they are now only a shadow of the 1.0 leves), and bring back 1-8 participants open world content (have to talk with an NPC to join before the content start), like chocobo escourt and behest every 30 minute on different locations.

What was also good open world content in 1.0 was the surprise contents that just happen within a patch at random times until next patch, like the garlean ambush (best was the one during 1.21).
Sure, the amount of paticipants was also not limited, but at least the event area was big enough that it didn't feel crowded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvEXkeHtf_g

[Riardon]

Always ask a lot to get the less. If we stop asking devs will think their game is too amazing and we are too happy with it so they won't bother fix or add anything more. It is with the help of the community that this game escaped its death and grew so large. And it is because we keep asking that this game will grow further. I want more open world just as I want more dungeons. I want both for diversity.