HQ Forager and Artisan Retainer drops... Gee Thanks SE for the Lost Income

[Katlyna]

I realized this morning that HQ Forager and Artisan gear is dropping like candy off battle retainers now. Which was a really bizarre choice given that the demand for the HQ level 50 gear was super low to begin with.

It may have been a bit goofy to have been cutting a 200% profit on these since Heavensword released... but that's what crafters do. We make things and sell things!!!

Why the heck would SE intentionally invalidate our ability to make and sell things. Is it just me or is this really really wrong? I understand its outdated content but still... what the HECK SE!?

It would have been better design if retainers would have dropped sealants and nuts. That would have been the healthiest choice for everyone (it also would have been easier to implement).

[Caimie_Tsukino]

Katy, they probably thought these items don't even sell anymore due to high cost to make comparing to the Archaeonskin set. Thus, they just give it out for free, so supply goes up, and price is reduced. Then, it might attract more buyers.

By making ALL ARR unspoiled gathering items gatherable from retainers, they're doing very similar stuff to the gathering part of the game anyway too. It basically makes the crafting of Artisan's gear or gathering of ARR unspoiled items obsolete.

[Espritduo]

They did the same thing with my moneymaker, crafting benches, which now are being brought back by quick ventures in a healthy supply. I've since stopped my glazenut gardens since there's no point growing them just to be forced to sell them for less than the cost of the soil. Not sure why SE thought this was a good idea. They killed endgame crafting and now it seems they're hellbent on killing every tier of crafting left. It's hard to believe they're not doing this on purpose just to piss us off at this point.

[Katlyna]

They did the same thing with my moneymaker, crafting benches, which now are being brought back by quick ventures in a healthy supply. I've since stopped my glazenut gardens since there's no point growing them just to be forced to sell them for less than the cost of the soil. Not sure why SE thought this was a good idea. They killed endgame crafting and now it seems they're hellbent on killing every tier of crafting left. It's hard to believe they're not doing this on purpose just to piss us off at this point.

Are you freaking kidding me. They did the same thing with the crafting benches?! WHAT THE @#$%#5 were they smoking there??? That was one of the few staple items for furniture making... omfg that makes me want to write corporate on that one.

Are there any other core 2.x items they did this too outside of these two sets (Artisan, Foragers and Workbenches OH MY)?!

[Alisi]

I have terrible retainers. They've never brought me anything like that before. They're just petty criminals that seem to mug fishermen and steal walls, roofs, and floor. .___.' They're a menace.

[Katlyna]

Crunching the numbers I think I'm facing a potential loss of 500k to 1million depending on what I'm able to pawn the goods off at. And even if I can pawn of my Ehc Sealants I'm technically transferring the loss to someone else who doesn't see it coming. The nicer thing would be to just destroy my remaining Ehc Sealants. Its not a big deal in the scheme of things... but as I told my FC its a really bizarre and awkward way to loose money.

[LongsunZhao]

Every bit of money I had coming in this game was from level 50 crafted items and vanity. Now that they are being gotten from ventues. I'm even worse off then I was before. New players are coming into the game, getting everything FOR NOTHING, WITHOUT WORKING and I'm losing pretty much the ability to do anything since everyone is doing the same thing.

Suarian Clothing items selling for around 20k each on Moogle. This is game breaking for those who earn a living from this kinda craft.

I have put my final month on this game. I am leaving because Square Enix do not listen. Been posting for months, No answers. They just do what they want, Don't listen. And take my money for the priviliage, In short. Fuck this game!

[LongsunZhao]

It's not even the artisan stuff. I used to make the majority of my gil from Vanity. You know, The true endgame. That retainers now dominate due to the items they now deliver.

I have had two pairs of three star Suarian clothing. Usually worth upwards of a few hundred thousand, now selling for around 20k.

This is wrong, coincidering people have spent alot of real money, gil, time, effort gearing crafts, just for everything done in ARR to be renedered totally obsolete.

[Jade-Nephrite]

You mean that Battle Retainers are bringing this HQ gear back from Quick Ventures? I noticed that on MIN/BOT Retainers can now bring back Darksteel Ore / Gold Ore Silkworm Cocoons from lv 50, also Shroud Tea Leaves, Ebony Wood and Feberite.

[LongsunZhao]

I have done five Quick Ventures since the release of 3.1. I have recieved 4 items of Suarian Clothing. And the other was Jute seeds...