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    Here's what I remember of the weapons:

    • Rhongomiant: One of King Authur's Weapons, predictably less famous than Excalibur. It is a lance
    • Nothung: Yet another name for Gram, Sigured Sword. I think it was the named used in Wagner's Ring Cycle
    • Deneb: Brightest star in Cygnus, and one of the 3 points of the Summer Triangle (the other two also lent their names to weapons in Qarn and Aurum Vale)
    • Armageddon: Typical end of the world stuff. Speficilay a final battle between God and Satan. Greek Translation of the word Revelation
    • Draconomicon: Take Lovecraft's Necronomicon and adapt it to dragons
    • Tetrabiblos: forgot aout that, but I do know the name translated into 4 Book essentialy
    • Majestas: Some sort of law
    • Ukonvasara: A weapon of a Finnish or Hindu god I think (thought that might be Verethragna instead)
    • Almace: Like Curtana, it is a sword form the Song of Roland
    • Hervelgmyr: I think it has something to do with yggdrasil's roots and a certain Dragoon-bodysnatching dragon
    • Verethragna: See Ukonvasara
    • Gandiva: Bow of Arjuna, Hindu hero
    Side note is that they are also the names of XI's Emperyan weapons (some of them at least)

    Also The weapons that become these weapons are esstentialy the Eso weapons, (Which are antiquated) so unless Rowena had these made around the calamity, I think there might be some history to them, but unlike the relics it is preety irrelevant (plus if Rowena is selling them, then chances are they aren't as unique as the Relics anyway)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    • Draconomicon: Take Lovecraft's Necronomicon and adapt it to dragons
    I just discovered something about the Draconomicon that may or may not be relevant to those wondering about the real-world inspirations for the latest line of relics.

    The Draconomicon was an actual source and rules book about dragons published by TSR (acquired later by Wizards of the Coast). The first version, based on Advanced Dungeon & Dragons 2nd Edition rules was published in 1990, as a supplement to the Forgotten Realms campaign setting. Later editions were published in 2003 and 2008.

    Here's my reason for why this is relevant, and not just simple coincidence:

    • The mythological Bahamut is an elephant-headed fish of epic, world-spanning proportions. It is said to carry a bull on its back, and on the bull, "a ruby mountain; on the mountain, an angel; the angel holds and supports the seven earths".

    • Bahamut as a dragon, or more specifically the Platinum Dragon, was an invention of TSR writers, from as far back as 1975. And, it was in 1990, with the publication of the Draconomicon, that Bahamut was first classified as a deity of the good-aligned "metallic" dragons (gold, silver, bronze, brass, etc).

    • As we all know, Final Fantasy drew references from a variety of sources to create its own, now iconic, multiple-title-spanning mythology. The idea of Bahamut as a mighty wyrm most likely came from Dungeon & Dragons.

    • And given Bahamut's major influence on the new post-50 summoner storyline, it seems fitting that the new summoner relic would not just make reference to its owner's brush with the Dreadwyrm, but also to the venerable franchise that spawned the original Dragon King.


    So, there you have it. I'm not suggesting, of course, that any of this has to be true. But it's fun to think about: an FFXIV relic inspired by a modern myth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinyRedLeaf View Post
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    Rarely brought-up fact: I's bestiary was taken from Dungeons and Dragons almost wholesale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
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    i'd like to add to this list that the shield that comes with Amlace: Ancile, is derived from Ancilla, twelve shields kept in the temple of mars.

    and tetrabiblos supposedly means "four parts." it was a text on astrology, if wikipedia is to be believed.
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    Heres a portion of what wikipedia has to say:

    Tetrabiblos is a text on the philosophy and practice of astrology, written in the 2nd century AD by the Alexandrian scholar Claudius Ptolemy (c. AD 90–c. AD 168).

    Ptolemy's Almagest was an authoritative text on astronomy for more than a thousand years, and the Tetrabiblos, its companion volume, was equally influential in astrology, the study of the effects of astronomical cycles on earthly matters. But whilst the Almagest as an astronomical authority was superseded by acceptance of the heliocentric model of the solar system, the Tetrabiblos remains an important theoretical work for astrology.
    So basically Scholars are studying astrology now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saiah View Post
    So basically Scholars are studying astrology now.
    Seeking a book level knowledge of it, at least, to add to their repertoire of strategies. Fits the idea of being a Scholar, at least, to seek out knowledge like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    Seeking a book level knowledge of it, at least, to add to their repertoire of strategies. Fits the idea of being a Scholar, at least, to seek out knowledge like that.
    It make sense. Parties have to know what jobs can benefit the most form the Astrologian's cards and that is an aspect of strategy and tactics, both things being the Scholar's niche of knowedge, thus the Scholars would want to know how the cards work to help use them effectively
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