The Xp and the PL problem are not "Fixed"

[viion]

easy and accessible doesnt = uber fast leveling in a few days to cap

thats something you need to understand

But it also does at the same time, which is something you do not understand.

A lot of people quit because it takes too long. I couldnt even get my brother to play because it takes too long unless I power level him and thats hard atm (rl stuff)

Its unaccessable to him, its not welcoming. He comes in and the game throws chors at him.

I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm just trying to understand your viewpoint. /peace dude. I'm just saying, you say you are casual and that you leveled to 50 in four days. Then you say the four month target is for casuals not hardcore. So I'm just asking you about this contradiction. Which one are you? Casual, in which case you should not have been able to level to max in four days according to you, or hardcore?

It is clear you did not understand me then

I am not saying I said the 4 months is for casuals, YOSHI said this.

I got 50 in 4 days because I have a large LS, who did it for me, as I run a big site, it was more to see "How long does it take?". Without the LS who did it for me, it wouldnt have happened. Casuals do not have this luxery.

I am a casual player, I also have the luxery that people invite me to their server and boost me up out of their own generosity.

[TheVedis]

But it also does at the same time, which is something you do not understand.

A lot of people quit because it takes too long. I couldnt even get my brother to play because it takes too long unless I power level him and thats hard atm (rl stuff)

Its unaccessable to him, its not welcoming. He comes in and the game throws chors at him.

so let me ask you this then

it takes a month+ to level to cap in other games, are those other games also unaccessable by his and your standards? or is that fine?


i understand that it can be a pain to take 4 months to level to cap, im not asking for it to take that long

but to take a month, 1 whole month of playing a bit each day(even an hour) to reach cap isnt asking a whole lot. thats pretty lenient too by all mmo standards.

[viion]

so let me ask you this then

it takes a month+ to level to cap in other games, are those other games also unaccessable by his and your standards? or is that fine?


i understand that it can be a pain to take 4 months to level to cap, im not asking for it to take that long

but to take a month, 1 whole month of playing a bit each day(even an hour) to reach cap isnt asking a whole lot. thats pretty lenient too by all mmo standards.

But right now for a casual player it probably does take 1 month to hit a cap. I run a site dedicated to this data, all the data points from new characters to a long pushed out grind.

People think that all new players will join and hit 50 in 4 days and it does not work like this. If you are hardcore sure it will but that is not the hardcore route.

You either prolong hardcore levelling so that casuals are fked and have to wait months, Or you keep it how it is so casual players can take a month+ to hit 50 where as hardcores can do it in no time atall.

and guess what, everyones playing more often now.

[Wynn]

But right now for a casual player it probably does take 1 month to hit a cap. I run a site dedicated to this data, all the data points from new characters to a long pushed out grind.

People think that all new players will join and hit 50 in 4 days and it does not work like this. If you are hardcore sure it will but that is not the hardcore route.

You either prolong hardcore levelling so that casuals are fked and have to wait months, Or you keep it how it is so casual players can take a month+ to hit 50 where as hardcores can do it in no time atall.

and guess what, everyones playing more often now.

For now, until they hit cap in every class next week and then just stand around in uldah complaining that there is nothing to do.

[viion]

For now, until they hit cap in every class next week and then just stand around in uldah complaining that there is nothing to do.

Unless they have a LS who is dedicated to levelling them or friends willing to do it then its doubtful.

And if they complain so what? Is levelling up "Something to do?", its an activity and some people dont like it.

Even if I took my sweet time I'd still hit 50 and could complain there is nothing to do... Your point here makes no sense.

What If i just spent the last year getting my first 50? I'd be like FK YEH! woo 50, now what to do. after a week I'd burn through all end game content and could say "wow nothing to do now, just wasted a year and this is all there is?".

The time it takes means nothing to the activities endgame, its completely separate.