Relic: Your progress on the Grind.

[Felis]

The mats are in the Diadem Easy area, right?

easy, normal and hard

[FoxyAreku]

Thanks. Aww crap its going to take forever because I'm starting from scratch on my beast tribe quests. Thanks for the information.

Just do Vath and Vanu. You'll be done with it by the time you get the old ones up high enough.

I got a good amount of my U. items from vath and vanu.

[CuteWhisper]

I'm having so much trouble getting the unidentified items. I have 0/7/1/20. Maybe I should figure out beast tribes to see if that will make it easier. Any tips are appreciated

Im actually going to grind Gordias and do hunts to get them. Though you would need to do approx 200 Grodias each turn to get them, thats why I will do Hunts on the side too.

[FoxyAreku]

Im actually going to grind Gordias and do hunts to get them. Though you would need to do approx 200 Grodias each turn to get them, thats why I will do Hunts on the side too.

Are you doing it with a group or something? I tried doing gordias, but queues were always 30+ minutes. Even putting a '10 run for a U item" group in party finder yielded not even one person.

[Ebonwings]

Finally ! 80/80 \(T)/ now need to gather all the crafting mats which I only have 8/20 at the moment... I found out the that alternate between Alexander Gordias, beast tribe quests, esoteric tomestones from dailies are best way to get unidentifiable ores and seeds. For the unidentifiable bones and shells, you could do MSQ roulette, beast tribes, and spam the hell out of CT. XD

[CuteWhisper]

Are you doing it with a group or something? I tried doing gordias, but queues were always 30+ minutes. Even putting a '10 run for a U item" group in party finder yielded not even one person.

Yeah doing it as a group with friends and FC mates

[Ibi]

Just do Vath and Vanu. You'll be done with it by the time you get the old ones up high enough.

If you've not started any beast tribes (2.x or 3.x), this is accurate as long as you can complete your anima with fewer than 38 days of beast tribe quests or will end up requiring 14 or fewer unidentified items from beast tribe quests.

If you've already hit max rank with Vath and Vanu Vanu (i.e. you won't get the bonus dailies from rank up quests), but haven't started any 2.x beast tribes, this is accurate as long as you can complete your anima with fewer than 34 days of beast tribe quests or will end up requiring 10 or fewer unidentified items from beast tribe quests.

Otherwise you're better off starting two of the 2.x tribes to use your remaining daily allowances. Obviously the thresholds are even lower if you have started making progress with any of the 2.x beast tribes.

Finally, at the other end of the scale, if your anima will involve 60 or more days of beastman dailies, or you plan to get at least 24 of the unidentified items from beastman dailies, you're better off doing only 2.x beast tribes even if you're starting from scratch.

[ShadowYomi]

Currently have my mch 230 relic 210 mnk and war weapon and a 170 nin weapon. With 26/80 unidentified items 16/16 crafted items and 1/5 aether oils.

[Colt47]

Actually the reverse is true. Relic is something for casuals to work towards over a series of months. Hardcore raiders will have raid weapons, which are always available sooner and are usually stronger.

I'm not saying I agree with it, because I don't, but poopsocking your way to anima in the first week was never intended. You WILL eventually get it if you're playing regularly. Unless you're spending all your eso on something else and you're not doing beast tribes at all.

Oh, no what I meant is make getting the weapon about proving ones skill as a player on a small scale that is doable solo or in a small group, like with some of the weapon quests from Vanilla WoW. The part that made the WoW ones fail was that to get the items to start the quest chains, one had to get lucky in a 40 man raid instance. They can make challenges that work for casual players but still feel enjoyable: Dark Souls has done this in spades. The trouble with Relic grinds is not that they are too casual, it's that they are too tedious because the content they make people do doesn't really overlap with the activities they promote otherwise in other areas.

[VirusChris]

Oh lord started to collect the mats for the Relic and man... I can't get ANYONE to help with the Diadem Stuff even with PF and no one is selling HQ items on my server as well for some of them. Still I did get a good portion of them to make the 16 HQ items and it cost me over 1 million Gil to start speeding up the process, but this is so overly complicated for a Relic. The Alexandrites and Zodiac Brave Step weren't this bad in my opinion, but the sooner I get these mats collected the sooner I can complete my Relic.

It's the Diadem part that's going to annoy the heck out of me the most. My FC even has all of their ship sent out and I have to wait until tomorrow for one of them to be open.
I discussed this with a friend of mine and he thinks this is "poor" game design if you had some other place to farm the mats if one spot isn't available to you and he played FFXI.

Well no use complaining. Any other suggestions about the Diadem aside from using DF if I'm unable to get my FC or PF to help?