True. The same difference between (from what I've seen of old patch notes), that FFXI was also released in shoddy condition, and got better years later, we just missed the crappy part. I dont doubt FFXIV will be a great game, just like they turned FFXI around, and it was the first MMO I played. But, two crappy launches... You do have to wonder in the back of your mind, does SE really ever have a plan? I know its a business, and they want our money, so I know that part of the plan. Beyond that though...haha. I still have Crysta I bought over a year ago, so I guess I'll see a bit more of the changes before I make up my mind (or get deployed again >.<).