Good Idea? Your Opinion.

[mandodo69]

So now we have 3.15 and it's kind of a pain with the whole A1 farms and such. So how about, to promote raiding in the game, you say we do 1 run of A1 Savage will give us 1 of the items needed, a special trade in item for unidentified Shell, etc.

Just a thought, what do you dudes and dudettes think?

[Moqi]

No.

Alas, this is NOT how I feel. I feel patience is a virtue. I am having fun.

Be virtuous and have fun farming.

[mandodo69]

No.



Be virtuous and have fun farming.

lol you took that out of context lol. Having patience meaning doing beast tribe, hunts, etc. To that extent, my farming consists of 20 A1 runs a day. So about an hour and a half of work.

[Devils_Lawyer]

I don't think this would be a good idea.

All tho it would just be another way to obtain tokens, it seems a to easy way since people that knows the fight would have no problem clearing it over and over.

The relic grind has always been about being tedious and grindy, not difficult and in my opinion it should remain that way.

[AskaRay]

Relic and raiding should stay separate.

[SinisterJointss]

Relic and raiding should stay separate.

but its not, you have to do alexander raids in order to get these tokens. soooo.....

Either way, would be nice if completing savage would give 5 tokens ( half of the requirement to obtain 1 trade in item)

This is what I think, Odds are the reason why Savage doesn't offer any chance to drop unidentified x, is because the weapons are designed for players who aren't challenging that content. The thing is, if you are doing Savage on a regular basis, then that means it's possible you have an i210 weapon already, so why have that content be another means to obtain the alternative method to an i210 weapon.

That's why the idea wouldn't work because of where you are trying to put the alternative method of obtaining x item. It would make more sense to have something like, add a new reward to the weekly Crystal Tower Run where instead of choosing an upgrade piece you can also choose to obtain 5x of one of the unidentified items. So doing a run of all three towers could get you 5 a week, which I don't think be a bad reward.

So if relics are designed for players who aren't challenging that content then why should people that are challenging it even do it? I dont see how it wouldnt work. The only reason it wouldnt work would be the outrage from casual players that raiders could obtain it faster.

[Sylve]

but its not, you have to do alexander raids in order to get these tokens. soooo.....

Either way, would be nice if completing savage would give 5 tokens ( half of the requirement to obtain 1 trade in item)

There is a fairly large chasm between normal Alexander (intended for everyone to be able to clear so as to experience the story) and Savage Alexander (Tuned to the bleeding edge Raiders with competent static groups on full voice communication and excellent co-ordination).
Normal Alex is more akin to a Light Party dungeon in terms of difficulty.

You also dont HAVE to do Alexander to get the materials. You can get everything you need without ever stepping into Alexander, so you're wrong on practically every count, lol.
You just want the end result without the time invested to get there.

[SinisterJointss]

There is a fairly large chasm between normal Alexander (intended for everyone to be able to clear so as to experience the story) and Savage Alexander (Tuned to the bleeding edge Raiders with competent static groups on full voice communication and excellent co-ordination).
Normal Alex is more akin to a Light Party dungeon in terms of difficulty.

You also dont HAVE to do Alexander to get the materials. You can get everything you need without ever stepping into Alexander, so you're wrong on practically every count, lol.
You just want the end result without the time invested to get there.

A raid is still a raid... skill level does not make one a raid and another not. Sure, you go ahead and get your relic tokens without doing any alexander. Let me know how that works out when you are just finishing it come 3.2

[Sylve]

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Oh noes. I'm finishing my relic line just in time for ... More relic stuff to do!
However shall i live with myself for not being as superelitehardcoreefficient with my Relic grind that is only as good as the weapons i already have!

Yeah, you're right. I totally need to take a few weeks off work, cease all human contact and grind for 20 hours a day with a 4 hour rest period so i can have this i210 weapon RIGHT THE HELL NOW.

Or i can just scoop up the materials passively while gearing my alt jobs through Alex and burning excess Law/Poetic tomes in the process on the materials.
Since i have no burning need to finish this thing in a hurry, I don't think I'll care overmuch when it gets done.

Also, No, i do not consider Alex Normal to be a Raid. Despite its presence in the Raid list, It's simply not challenging enough even at minimum ilvl to constitute a true Raiding experience.