"Flipping" (Hoarding) Housing

[Solarra]

its about understanding housing in its current state can not be supplied to each and every individual and its not going to happen on wards to meet the demand with out being a detriment to the rest of the game. server space is limited thats all i am saying

I don't see your logic.
Making housing available to everybody is not going to be to the detriment of the game unless Square decide not to make the funding available to implement it properly and then instruct the devs to go ahead anyway but cut something else. Unless you work for them you have no way of knowing if that is going to happen.

The most important point of the OP was that under the present system some players have been able to buy multiple properties with the sole intention of profiting from others. Reclamation doesn't prevent this and it's something a lot of us feel should be stopped.
Housing is in short supply, so it makes no sense to allow more than a single personal house and a FC house on each account.

[Kolaina]

Housing is in short supply, so it makes no sense to allow more than a single personal house and a FC house on each account.

which i do not disagree with. but unless they upgrade servers in which the are able to provide based on current demand, not everyone will be able to get a house. is that not what peoples issues are? hypothetically they could meet demand, on wards. on top of that, plan ahead for any possible additions to the community, adding even more housing. then accounting for potential new fcs. how much data will this take up? keep in mind theyd have to account for every piece of furnishing, garden etc. how much is enough? and when they have enough + extra for 'just in case', how much space is left for growing content?

as for my personal thoughts on the matter. personal housing never should have been implimented. they gave people rooms for their own personal space. anything else a house provides should be provided by the fc, stables as an example. if locked out of fc stables, id question choice of fc.
all housing has done is create negativity in those who want but are with out. in which knowingly being unable to provide for the masses, never should have given in to the demand for personal housing

[LaylaTsarra]

Housing is in short supply, so it makes no sense to allow more than a single personal house and a FC house on each account.

They need to allow alts the ability to access their mains personal house. They can join the same FC and use it's features. I have two fully leveled alts and they can't even use the mender in my house.

[Laerune]

The way they implentented the housing feature was bad from the start. I know there is the whole server issue stuff going on, but this game is showering us with housing stuff, stuff that majority of players on each server are not able to use, because they can not afford or because there is a lack of free housing plot.

I highly recommend SE to play Wildstar for a week or two and learn from them on how to do housing right. Housing should be:
1, There should be a plot for every player, just because someone joined the game a year later, does not mean, they should be punished for it.
2, Housing should be locked behind a questline or it should be very affordable for every player. Maybe they could give a hut for free and you pay to upgrade it into a mansion.
3, Let the players pick their own neighbours, I rather live in a neighbourhood with friends and FC/LS members, then strangers that will never say a word to me.

I doubt any of these features will be added to the game, because SE has a BIG server memory issue, that they need to sort ASAP or else this game will never move forward.

[Solarra]

They need to allow alts the ability to access their mains personal house. They can join the same FC and use it's features. I have two fully leveled alts and they can't even use the mender in my house.

I agree with you 100% If they restricted the private house to one character on each account that would just be piling more unfairness onto an already unfair system.


I have to say I get tired of constantly seeing the server issue being brought up by other players. None of us in are a position to know exactly why housing has been so poorly implemented, yet every time it is raised, a lot of people seem to feel the need to make excuses for Square and basically tell the rest of us to 'hush up'. We are asking for a heavily promoted feature of the game to be made available to all, that's hardly unreasonable.
Why housing is only accessible to a tiny proportion of players isn't the issue under discussion. I don't care why; it's not my problem, nobody is paying me to provide it.

Housing is scarce, everyone knows some players have been buying multiple properties simply to make a profit and still Square is doing nothing to prevent it.

[SendohJin]

Apparently, it's a common thing amongst servers for one person to buy multiple estates, entirely for the purpose of resale, 3-5 times the original price.

this is not at all common (at least on my server), if it was common you should see plots for sale in PF everyday and i don't.

it also can't be common because someone who wants to do that needs to have open plots to buy and my server never has any open plots.

[viewtyjoe]

Regarding the server limitations, the main issues seem to be maintaining all of the furniture in all of the plots in a subdivision of a ward. Why not move to an instanced system? House exterior and interior are fully instanced, can be culled when not in use, perhaps limited to one house per FC and one personal per player. The whole concept of permissions would stay, so you'd still be able to have guests, so you can bring non-FC members on airship missions or to advance workshop projects. It seems like a more tenable system, plus I imagine it'd make moving easier: just dump everything in the old house into the inventory of the new house upon move. Then the players can re-place furniture and such.

[Levi]

This is a pretty low price you had to pay. It's common to take 3x gil worth of the plot. And with the extras u got u made a real good deal.

[Xieveral]

2, Housing should be locked behind a questline or it should be very affordable for every player. Maybe they could give a hut for free and you pay to upgrade it into a mansion.

In a perfect hell, they'll make it like the relic quests and you'll have to choose between obtaining/building on/upgrading your plot or upgrading your relic with the items obtained.

[Hakuohsama]

Well soon plots will be free from players who dindt log in for 45 days.
I hope that i get a small Plot for myself cause there no space at all on my server.
But even after looking arround for Plots mby barely 10 Plots will get free from inactiv players.