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    Matthias Gendrin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Remember that any conclusions you draw from this survey are not representative of the player base of the game, they represent the community on the forum, the two are not the same thing.
    Good point! I'll keep that in mind when I post my abstract.
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    A dungeon party with two summoners always makes me egi.

    Beginner's Overview to Tanking in FFXIV: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/352455
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    Good point! I'll keep that in mind when I post my abstract.

    Thanks, and thanks for the survey too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Yes.
    Since FFXIV ARR Beta phase 3, with a 6 month period when I was still subbed, but could only play very limited times.
    No, but I have played others before, I did not come here from another game that I was playing when this started.

    Remember that any conclusions you draw from this survey are not representative of the player base of the game, they represent the community on the forum, the two are not the same thing.
    Because the people who post on the forum arent actually equally players and customers? i really dont understand this lol. How is the forum community different from the player base when to login and post in here you must have a square enix valid and active account?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkB View Post
    Because the people who post on the forum arent actually equally players and customers? i really dont understand this lol. How is the forum community different from the player base when to login and post in here you must have a square enix valid and active account?
    The forum is not representative because it's not a random sampling of the playerbase. It's a subset of the playerbase that is interested in posting on the official forums. This adds bias to the sample, and is thus not representative of the whole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    The forum is not representative because it's not a random sampling of the playerbase. It's a subset of the playerbase that is interested in posting on the official forums. This adds bias to the sample, and is thus not representative of the whole.
    Pretty much this.

    I may build a survey site in the future that automatically compiles the data from these to build charts from, and is independent of the forums, but even then, there would be bias.
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    A dungeon party with two summoners always makes me egi.

    Beginner's Overview to Tanking in FFXIV: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/352455
    Learn to Play (it's not what you think): http://www.l2pnoob.org/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    The forum is not representative because it's not a random sampling of the playerbase. It's a subset of the playerbase that is interested in posting on the official forums. This adds bias to the sample, and is thus not representative of the whole.
    They are more representative than people think. If you dont come here to ask for a change, for feedback or anything else, then you are part of the same problem you are complaining about. Im just saying dont take people that post on this forum like serie B players, because actually they come here with the hope SE will read what they write. And there are a lot of very old players that couldnt really care to post and write on a forum like myself, unless the situation is quite bad.

    besides saying "the forum is not representative of the WHOLE player base" is quite reduntant, you will never be able to have a 100% representative of the whole playerbase ever on a forum or in game. That being said the post from Kosmos992k seemed the usual attempt to discriminate whoever express any opinion against the current game status.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkB View Post
    Because the people who post on the forum arent actually equally players and customers? i really dont understand this lol. How is the forum community different from the player base when to login and post in here you must have a square enix valid and active account?
    Ever take an Internet Poll before?

    The results are skewed because the respondents are not chosen from a random sampling of the base population.

    From hit #3 using the search term "internet poll self sampling": "A self-selected sample that is not randomly selected from a population has no specification of sampling error" -- http://cstl-cla.semo.edu/rdrenka/Renka_papers/polls.htm

    Also, the questions in the poll can provide bias toward certain answers.
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    1. Yes, but would lke more innovation.
    2. Beta
    3. No.
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    Herlock Sholmes
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    Mateus
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    Dancer Lv 76
    1. Are you currently satisfied with FFXIV?
    So-so.
    2. How long have you been playing FFXIV?
    Since beta, but took a break until 2.1 then started playing regularly.
    3. Did you leave any other MMO in order to play FFXIV, and if so, which?
    Yes, Mabinogi.
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    Mad Platter
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    1. No.
    2. CE 1.0.
    3. FFXI.
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