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    Question about PvP vs PvE Gear?

    So my PVP Rank is 25, so I'm not even relatively close to the level 60 PVP gear (Which is 50. I can use the i110 gear because it no longer has a pvp rank requirement.

    So my question is: for my Frontlines fun (Specifically seal rock) Since the items sync to 150 regardless. Am I better off using the lower level i110 gear with morale, or am I better off using my i170 PvE Gear?
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    Your i170 gear is more than likely better than your i110 gear Have a look at your class used stats the items give and the i170s should be higher.
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    The stats are higher, but doesn't everything sync to 150 anyway? Isn't that how item sync works or have I been wrong all this time?
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    Not sure if I am correct, but it doesn't sync perfectly. As in, the secondary stats like vitality, intelligence etc won't sync up to 150 perfectly. There is an upper cap, for example I believe for me, on accessories, all secondary stats cap at 24. So if I have i210 gear that gives me 40 SS/crit/int/vit, those will go down to 24. Any secondaries below upper cap, will stay below, my i160 ring with 18 spellspeed and 36 crit gives me 18 spellspeed, and 24 crit. I haven't checked, but maybe defense syncs up to i150 / cap. Secondaries seem to NOT sync upwards to the cap atleast.

    I have no idea about pvp gear with morale, perhaps morale caps secondaries that the item has, I am not sure.
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    Last edited by S-snape; 01-01-2016 at 09:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexStarr View Post
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    Right now in seal rock, PVP gear is useless because it syncs you at ilvl 150, morale does work, your just synced. Besides even if you WERE at full i110 gear, you wouldn't be allowed in seal rock because you HAVE to be at i150 to get in. You're better off with the PvE gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexStarr View Post
    The stats are higher, but doesn't everything sync to 150 anyway? Isn't that how item sync works or have I been wrong all this time?
    Lvl Sync applies Post-stat. So, it's better to have a surplus value that syncs down to the stat cap than have a deficiency that syncs at or below stat cap.

    The idea is to try and get as close to your ideal secondary stat caps as possible. For example, Tanks see the greatest dmg returns off of Det and Crit, so they want those two stats to be as high as possible. If your PvE set puts you over the stat cap of the lvl sync, then you will always be capped on that stat when you go into battle. It can't get any higher, because you already had more than you could use.

    That being said, when you get to maximum rank it is a good idea to compare the stats of the PvP set and the PvE stets. PvP sets are tuned for higher dmg output, and lvl sync applies after morale bonuses. So, the secondary stats on your PvP set can actually be better than your PvE set, depending on what stats it has and what ilvl your PvE set is. For Drk, for example, the item lvl 180 (210 with Morale bonus) PvP set is actually better for Dps than the 180-190 PvE sets because it grants higher Det/Crit at the expense of Acc (which you don't really need in PvP). It's only after ilvl 200 where the PvE sets start to catch up or pass the PvP set, and even then it's comparable. "Attack power" goes up, but Det or Crit (I can't remember which) is still higher on the PvP set, depending on what pieces you have.

    In any case, as long as you are syncing down to the maximum stat number you can possibly get, it doesn't make a difference what set you go with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    E=mc²
    All say about those cap's but what is the cap? How much? Or where to check this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiril View Post
    All say about those cap's but what is the cap? How much? Or where to check this?
    Didn't personally confirm these but other people have stated some cap stats for classes:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...sync-cap-works
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    Just find gear over 160 with stats you want
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