Where did the creativity go?

[Azurymber]

I would love to just grind pvp for my law
Except that there are usually hour long wait times to get into a single match
so it would take months or years.

[Kaurie]

I would love to just grind pvp for my law
Except that there are usually hour long wait times to get into a single match
so it would take months or years.

What order are you with? My queue times are usually under 5 minutes for PvP with Twin Adder. Maybe you should jump ship?

[Valkyrie-Amber]

ikr... like this game has so much potential.... even if you have a small team of developers surly you can hire a few more or better yet merge the XI staff with the XIV staff and then XIV would soon be amazeing

[Iromi]

As someone who has been here since alpha testing 1.0, and never stopped playing...I can safely say the creativity ended with 1.23. That game at the very end was turning out to be a very unique and creative thing...then well, you see what we have now. :/ Potential is there, but they are too scared...which in the end, will be their loss.

[Derceto]

As someone who has been here since alpha testing 1.0, and never stopped playing...I can safely say the creativity ended with 1.23. That game at the very end was turning out to be a very unique and creative thing...then well, you see what we have now. :/ Potential is there, but they are too scared...which in the end, will be their loss.

This about where i sit in terms of ARR's reception and execution.

[Blood-Aki]

Nothing about PVP in an MMO is "fun" obviously subjective but majority of the playerbase forget it even exists, and guild heists are probably the most boring thing IN this game,

There is no reason to do the old raid dungeons because the gear is outdated and useless, even new players don't really bother with them.

If you find these things fun it's no wonder you don't like this game.

[Valkyrie-Amber]

umm PVP is actually more fun than running same old duty 1000k times.....

Speaking of witch a map like seal rock with a capture the flag and bring it to base would make things a real challenge.

[Kaurie]

umm PVP is actually more fun than running same old duty 1000k times.....

Again this is entirely opinion :P I'd say running an old duty > PvP.

Granted PvP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Crafting, so.

[Valkyrie-Amber]

yes crafting is fun too though gathering can become boring after an hour.... but you need to do both or spend a tone of gil for mats...

[Critical-Limit]

FFXI had those properties OP because it was strong horizontal progression. Ffxiv is the complete
Opposite with strong vertical progression.

FFXI got away with making grinds like me going 1/149 on leaping Lizzie boots because once you got the drop it was good and relevant Nearly forever and it's was like a level 7 item or something.

Ffxiv can't give you that much to do because there are clear cut best in slot items so people grind one thing until they get it.

While FFXI if you got tired of camping Lizzie boots you could go grind for something else that you haven't got yet. You had 1,000 relevant items you could get. While ffxiv has like 18 relevant items for your job.

But the argument people use here against horizontal progression is always " I don't want to carry 9 different weapons"