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    Mizunoko's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksuisa View Post
    Just blame ps3 and how they still have to support it until 4.0
    no doubt they could toss some cool stuff out there if they dropped console support altogether and got rid of that restraint
    While ps3 may hold us back some, ps4 has no issues running the game or any other future content for that matter, pc and ps4 both have their pros and cons. Targeting consoles to be the problem really doesn't solve the actual issue. Besides if they dropped consoles altogether from the game probably about 40% of the games population would disappear, and se would never want that, and nor would that percentage of ps4 players. The world of final fantasy started on consoles and to disregaurd them from any final fantasy would be a great disrespect to any dedicated console gamer. The great thing about being able to play this game on ps4 is that people who are so used to consoles or people who do not have that great of a pc or money to spend on one have another option to still play ff14 with. So i feel that attacking consoles is both somewhat ignorant and not backed up by any actual proof that ps4 holds the game back in any way.
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    Last edited by Mizunoko; 12-18-2015 at 09:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksuisa View Post
    Just blame ps3 and how they still have to support it until 4.0
    no doubt they could toss some cool stuff out there if they dropped console support altogether and got rid of that restraint
    Show me proof that PlayStation (either 3 or 4) holds back FFXIV in any way and I will start playing on a PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BARDS_ARROW View Post
    Show me proof that PlayStation (either 3 or 4) holds back FFXIV in any way and I will start playing on a PC.
    Easy.
    PS3 memmory is too low, 256MB, and since we play on the same servers and stuff, game has to be the same on every other platform.

    With that tiny memmory they can't add new content such as a parser, add-ons, and in-game stuff like wider maps with more stuff on them, storage problems (armoury and normal storage, since it has to be pre-loaded already. Retainers doesn't count since is not storage on-the-go and it loads only when you request it).

    And the overall mapping, jobs, effects etc has to be nerfed and limited in order to make it happen on PS3.

    PS4 is ok since it has enough memmory and resources to do it, but PS3 is draging it down. I'm glad they'll forget about it in 4.0, hopefully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksuisa View Post
    Just blame ps3 and how they still have to support it until 4.0
    no doubt they could toss some cool stuff out there if they dropped console support altogether and got rid of that restraint
    Ok I can see PS3 being taken away but there also PS4, so you be kind of hurting yourself as a player. Cause that taking money away from SE from what sounds like in earlier post already the dev team already short on funding. Content not going to improve with less money coming in.
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    I know this isn't exactly the place to say it but,

    If it is going to take 5+ years to make the FF7 remaster, then try finishing FF15 and KH3 before stretching man power even thinner. If corpret did that then maybe FF14 could get the funding and man power it desperately needs and they could actually make the FF7 Remake into a single game instead of a multi episode farce. The only way I'd support that is if Before Crisis, Crisis Core, OG FF7, and Dirge of Cerberous were the "Episode" and all 4 were getting remastered.

    Otherwise That'd be like the 3.1 update, and 3.15 update, and 3.2 update all costing 5-10 USD apiece to install.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    I know this isn't exactly the place to say it but,

    If it is going to take 5+ years to make the FF7 remaster, then try finishing FF15 and KH3 before stretching man power even thinner. If corpret did that then maybe FF14 could get the funding and man power it desperately needs and they could actually make the FF7 Remake into a single game instead of a multi episode farce. The only way I'd support that is if Before Crisis, Crisis Core, OG FF7, and Dirge of Cerberous were the "Episode" and all 4 were getting remastered.

    Otherwise That'd be like the 3.1 update, and 3.15 update, and 3.2 update all costing 5-10 USD apiece to install.
    Pretty sure FF7 remake is being made with the help of CyberConnect 2 and is using Unreal Engine 4 instead of an in-house engine. So it should be a much easier project for Skweenicks to handle.
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    Player Kaiser-Ace's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksuisa View Post
    Pretty sure FF7 remake is being made with the help of CyberConnect 2 and is using Unreal Engine 4 instead of an in-house engine. So it should be a much easier project for Skweenicks to handle.
    Easter to develop doesn't mean they won't spend money and man power FF14, FF15, and KH3 needs for their projectss inorder to develop it slightly faster. If they aren't careful it'll repeat the lightning trilogy incedent again and set all their projects back another 10 years.
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    Considering that FFXIV was in development for the better part of a decade and the disaster that was 1.0 they probably have a huge amount of development costs to pay back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naria View Post
    Considering that FFXIV was in development for the better part of a decade and the disaster that was 1.0 they probably have a huge amount of development costs to pay back.
    I've been doing some very rough math about that. If the initial development of 1.0 was 450m, and they've brought in, at my figures, probably around 500m in just subscription fees alone without anything else factored in, I would think they've got to have at least gotten close by now? Costs are costs, sure, but there's got to be at least a pretty positive forecast with what they're bringing in here? It doesn't line up. But if someone has more concrete figures, I welcome them to correct me- it's really hard to know, what with a lot of things being unreported or opaque in general.
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    Last edited by Kumori_Kumo; 12-18-2015 at 07:32 PM.

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    This all just comes back to the relationship between developers and publishers. From a publishers point of view, the developers are solely responsible for caring for their product. A publishers whole concern is the bottom dollar of EVERYTHING they publish. FFXIV is a tiny blip on SE's radar. Their focus is on how many pieces they can get away with splitting FFVII into and still charge full price or how badly will delaying FFXV hurt Q4 profits for 2016. Publishers don't care about the products themselves or the consumers. Its all about numbers.

    Don't ever expect a PUBLISHER to give a damn beyond balancing their books.
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