Why is "It's something to do" apparently a valid defense?

[Ilitsa]

I don't like Alexander Savage, I guess people need to stop doing it altogether, why do they insist on defending something so stupid. Your gear is going to be irrelevant when 3.2 lands anyways, so why bother?


I enjoy a grind. #RagnarokOnline4ever

Edit: Before some raider gets their panties all knotted up, no I'm not being serious about stopping raids, cuz guess what? "It's something to do" =D

[Nashred]

They also came with later expansions.
In fact, even Dynamis wasn't implemented until the end of Zilart.
HW offers Diadem, which is exactly a "modern MMO" Dynamis, in its 1st major patch, and Lors Of Verminion.

And before CoP, you had basically no dungeons and no raids.

I am sorry but this is not a new game anymore and FFXI was a new MMORPG for SE this is not. Nothing different is even announced for the future yet.
Like I said I see the potential this game has. They can do allot with just housing but they do not even fix the housing shortage yet and how long has this been going on?. It is like SE does not believe this game is successful and do not want to throw any resources at it.. I can sit their watching bots for month and SE does nothing about them. It seems they spend more time on the cash shop and that was supposed to free up money to make more content?

The turn over in this game is starting to get insane.. My friends list was huge and now about 5 people log on weekly. It seems to do well with new players though but since Heavensward the population does seem to be dropping.

[Critical-Limit]

Man, really you guys play RPGs and MMO\\'s and you expect to them not have grinds? LOLOLOL

All RPGs even offline have grinds for best weapons or gears in the game but once you complete the game and endgame unlock for you get them do you go and get them?

Uh no, they don't have to "quit" and move on and never get the items while you spam content that your muscle memory can handle by itself so its literally watching the same animations happening over and over because the mechanics don't change to make you pay attention.

They can take a break come back a year later and In less than 1/4th the time catch up to your "progress".

[ohmRICE]

I don't like Alexander Savage, I guess people need to stop doing it altogether, why do they insist on defending something so stupid. Your gear is going to be irrelevant when 3.2 lands anyways, so why bother?

Ironically enough people have stopped bothering with Savage and this one of the reasons.

[Reynhart]

I am sorry but this is not a new game anymore and FFXI was a new MMORPG for SE this is not.

Creating content takes time, and this game has far more content than FFXI in the same span of years. Dynamis was created in 2005, three years after initial launch. ARR was launched...3 years ago, we have Diadem.
And you can't count 1.0 since ARR was created back from scratch.

[Velox]

If people are bored/upset, unsubstantiated and go do something else. I've taken probably 9-11 months off of the game during my entire time of playing XIV, don't see why others can't do the same.

Because the fact that there are still people who are having fun makes those people's angry forum tirades look meaningless, so they have to come into threads like these and try to convince people they aren't really having fun in the hopes they can drive people away from the game in order to justify their own opinions as "facts."

That's why they can't simply take a break without putting people down on the forums first.

[Blood-Aki]

Ironically enough people have stopped bothering with Savage and this one of the reasons.

But this has been happening since the game started, This shouldn't be new to anyone who has actually been playing this long.

[Ilitsa]

Ironically enough people have stopped bothering with Savage and this one of the reasons.

maybe so, but one of the most popular counter-arguments to the relic is "You can just get a Thordan weapon" which is equally as pointless, my point was, no matter what we do to enjoy ourselves, our "rewards" that we get right now will be worthless in the next patch cycle, people need to just stop being so critical of eachother and realize that their fun isn't hurt by someone else enjoying doing something they don't like. The fact that all of these arguments are going on between people just NEEDS TO STOP. I suppose my tongue in cheek point that you bolded may have been a bit careless of me, can't read intent in text, and all, so I apologize on that front

[Reynhart]

A little question : If the reward is not better, why would you spent time to get it ?

[Ilitsa]

A little question : If the reward is not better, why would you spent time to get it ?

Because, personally, I grew up on Ragnarok Online, hands down one of the MOST grindy MMOs ever, and I love it. I enjoy killing monsters for that .1% drop, I enjoy having to kill thousands of something to get my item, my counter question is, why does someone enjoying it bother you enough to feel the need to question it?