Why is "It's something to do" apparently a valid defense?

[Shiki_Lockhart]

Last time I grinded, it a) wasn't as long in either of the genres you depicted unless it was a survival mode and b) it was worth the effort way more. Justifying a massive grind just because there have been grinds is really passé.

Sure, but relic isn't hard to get, just take time. I know that there will be some nolifes spamming alex 800x until they bleed just to be the first ones to get the relic but that's their own ego, goal and satisfaction. Now, I can't imagine myself spaming 800x alex so I will do a bit of every option available and get there. Like doing daily beastmen quests, doing the roulettes to get poetics and law to trade for 680 for those items when I can, mine every day for 1 map a day to see if I get some luck and then alex a bit every day and who knows some hunts.

Don't come here a few months later crying, when this relic is the BiS and you didn't do because of your reasons, because you are a lot behind now and ask for nerf so you can complete like how happened with the zeta relic. One thing you need to know, this is first step, don't take it as finished and don't worth doing because will hurt more on the long road if you don't follow.