Why is "It's something to do" apparently a valid defense?

[YukikoViviage]

A lot of negativity in this thread... I ask the OP and everyone agreeing with the OP. Where will you go? Is there any other MMOs that even compare to what we currently have?
I support this game because it's the only MMO that is fun plus I want to support the game. There is no MMO out there that I want to play other than FFXIV.

MMO's Right now? None. In a few months time? Give and take 2-3 months? I'm outta here. I was considering juggling a few games, but with the crap they've pulled I just can't bring myself to pay that monthly fee anymore. The amount I'm about to save once my sub runs out can net me another AAA game. I've been a player since January of 2015, and I've already felt the burn out. I can't imagine how the other people who have stuck around since 2013 would feel.

[Hellboy-sa]

lol.. you know ff14 isn't the only thing in life

im not having fun with anything outside ffxiv whats your problem?

[Chiramu]

im not having fun with anything outside ffxiv whats your problem?

The people in this thread are really rude, apparently no one is allowed to have fun in FFXIV just because they aren't atm.

[Aarik]

A lot of negativity in this thread... I ask the OP and everyone agreeing with the OP. Where will you go? Is there any other MMOs that even compare to what we currently have?
I support this game because it's the only MMO that is fun plus I want to support the game. There is no MMO out there that I want to play other than FFXIV.

I personally have been struggling to stay subbed, but these past few patches have painted a very disturbing trend that staying subscribed would only be seen as my approval for said trend. That being said, you ask what we currently have? We have Heavensward, an expansion that had an epic storyline but absolutely no new ideas (except flying, but that's transportation only). We have a raid that has essentially driven off the raiding community, the diadem that further rammed that last nail into the raid coffin, void ark which is so simple you can read a book while doing it, horribly neglected crafting, and now a 'new' relic questline that introduced absolutely nothing new; instead they copy/pasted directly from the old relic questline.

As for where we'll go? Well, you're operating under the assumption that we can only run to another MMO...which is very, very false. FO4, Star-Wars: Battlefront, one of the countless zombie games, ANNO, and countless other games. And that's just video games. I for one am getting back into mtg, and have friends that have convinced me to try D&D; honestly it sounds fun, if a bit silly. But that's just it; it'll be fun; something SE need to remember, perhaps?

....though I will admit, the Arboretum is very beautiful. Has nice music too. Probably the one thing I legitimately enjoyed for 3.1+.

[PawsTheKitti123]

so you like playing with shi'te? seriously if this is the best that SE can do for a MMO with the Legendary title of "Final Fantasy" then I guess I might as well scrub my Hard Drive so I can get rid of this infection we call FFXIV before it spreads to the rest of my games.

So let me get this straight

It sounds like, because you dont enjoy it that others wont either and if they do they should feel bad?

Also if youre going to unsub just do it instead of telling everyone. Someone will gladly buy your house if you have one and someone may sub in your place.

[Dyvid]

Let's get to the heart of the matter then.

1) Do you find the content you're play not fun?
2) What happened between yesterday and today that made it less enjoyable? its the same content we've been playing for months now.
3) Lastly what kind of content can SE add to make the game more enjoyable to grind for months while trying to earn Relics? What should SE do different?

[PawsTheKitti123]

The people in this thread are really rude, apparently no one is allowed to have fun in FFXIV just because they aren't atm.

I agree and you know what? I laugh at the rude people. Haha, you cant do your relic quest because you hate it. Good. I respect and applaud those who arent complaining and hate it and those who enjoy it. If you like it, ignore the losers and enjoy the game. Even if ff is boring, play other games then. Its not the only game in the world.

[Astral145]

So let me get this straight

It sounds like, because you dont enjoy it that others wont either and if they do they should feel bad?

Also if youre going to unsub just do it instead of telling everyone. Someone will gladly buy your house if you have one and someone may sub in your place.

so you enjoy rehashed content? 3.0 was suppose to be something epic something more than 2.xx.Instead the game is devolving... Its no where near as fun as 2.xx. The devs really need to let go of the safety net and take a chance. But unfortunately since 2.5 FFXIV has been on this hamster wheel and brought nothing new to the game. Are the new maps beautiful Yes they are simply gorgeous but that's it. They brought no open world dungeons (like 3 boss fights, mechanics, puzzels, traps...ect) instead all there is just endless fields of mobs and a pretty view from a flying mount. Even the new relic quest is just endless borring content. Nothing wrong with a good grind but who said it has to be boring?

Games are suppose to fun... not a chore. I do chores to keep my house clean. But I don't know what is worse cleaning my bathroom or the new relic quest... and that is pretty sad.

[Reynhart]

Isn't everything "something to do" in an MMO ?

Games are suppose to fun... not a chore.

Take any content from the game...you'll find plenty of people claiming that it isn't fun and it's a chore, while others claiming they love it.

Not a valid argument against relic.

[Shiki_Lockhart]

Man, really you guys play RPGs and MMO's and you expect to them not have grinds? LOLOLOL

All RPGs even offline have grinds for best weapons or gears in the game but once you complete the game and endgame unlock for you get them do you go and get them? Probably not and then you go to next RPG do the same. You never touch the endgame or get the best of best items because it is a lot work and you cleared the history, correct?

For example FFXIII, doing all history would take around 50h, after you clear it you have those big challenges but that thing would add another 50h to the game to attain best weapons with super hard bosses and etc. When I played in PS3 I was doing it but once got too hard and I found out a new game to play I stopped and never touched it again. I got the games now on steam and probably will want to try get all this time when I decide to play through the 3 games.

Well, relics in FFXIV are the same, they just make older content alive again and making us do a lot things that consume time but if you aren't in a hurry you will get it eventually, even by doing daily roulette alone and you wont feel burnt out. Is your choice to decide what pace to take to attain the relic.