Why is "It's something to do" apparently a valid defense?

[Aarik]

Maybe some people are content doing beastman quests, fates, dungeons, and raids as long as they get something out of it. Before 3.15, they weren't getting anything from it and now they are. 3.1 just added Void Ark and 2 dungeons for casual play. Go get your tomestones and your Mhachi Farthing, upgrade your 210 gear, and be happy? I don't understand the problem. People want casual content, then they do it in one day, then a week later they want more. Get over yourself. If you don't want to put in the effort to craft, or do relic, or raid. Then you go log off until the next patch lol.

You do realize that the argument of "if you don't like it, then unsub" is probably one of the worst arguments there is in a P2P? Many of us have been struggling to find reasons to stay subscribed, because we realize what would happen if all of us just unsubbed. SE already has a skeleton crew running this game (considering it's size and scope) what do you think dropping profits would do? SE isn't the dev team; they won't care about the reasons, just the numbers. Your unsub argument is actually quite negative to the game's future longevity.

[Nominous]

You do realize that the argument of "if you don't like it, then unsub" is probably one of the worst arguments there is in a P2P? Many of us have been struggling to find reasons to stay subscribed, because we realize what would happen if all of us just unsubbed. SE already has a skeleton crew running this game (considering it's size and scope) what do you think dropping profits would do? SE isn't the dev team; they won't care about the reasons, just the numbers. Your unsub argument is actually quite negative to the game's future longevity.

So I guess all of the people who did the same thing in 1.0 were negatively impacting the game too?

That was sarcasm. This isn't~

All of the complaining and speaking with wallets lead to ARR. There will always be the defenders and extreme supporters, which is why FFXI was around for so long. It certainly wouldn't have existed without the devout followers.

[Granyala]

Because people either have too much free time on their hands or they don't value it so they waste it with boring grind busywork in a game that is meant to entertain.

Humans are irrational creatures. Do not ask for a logical foundation to their behavior.

[Leonus]

Because people either have too much free time on their hands or they don't value it so they waste it with boring grind busywork in a game that is meant to entertain.

Humans are irrational creatures. Do not ask for a logical foundation to their behavior.

If people really, and truly valued their free time, no one would be wasting it on video games at all. People would use that time to truly better themselves as people in their everyday lives. Please do not speak as though you are much better, as we all play this game and in that sense, we are all wasting our time.


As for everyone else, there is no amount of content that they can add that will not get stale after 1 month of being accessible. Point. Blank. Period. Hell, things get stale after you still do things after the first 10 times, I don't see how people think adding all new content to grind makes it that much better, at most it buys you a week of content feeling new before people start calling it old.

That is how fast people burn what is put out, example, Thordan Ex. If it's not beaten within a month, people cry that it's to hard and that it's time/gear gated.

If people are bored/upset, unsubscribe and go do something else. I've taken probably 9-11 months off of the game during my entire time of playing XIV, don't see why others can't do the same.

[Chiramu]

A lot of negativity in this thread... I ask the OP and everyone agreeing with the OP. Where will you go? Is there any other MMOs that even compare to what we currently have?
I support this game because it's the only MMO that is fun plus I want to support the game. There is no MMO out there that I want to play other than FFXIV.

[BossEpoch]

A lot of negativity in this thread... I ask the OP and everyone agreeing with the OP. Where will you go? Is there any other MMOs that even compare to what we currently have?
I support this game because it's the only MMO that is fun plus I want to support the game. There is no MMO out there that I want to play other than FFXIV.

dude, you make it sound like you need an MMO to function. There are other things to do. I can understand though, as I don't have many hobbies other than video games myself but there are plenty of other games I could have fun with instead. For instance, I'm playing through Persona 4 Golden instead and having a blast.

Where will I go? I 'unno, outside maybe.

[Chiramu]

dude, you make it sound like you need an MMO to function. There are other things to do. I can understand though, as I don't have many hobbies other than video games myself but there are plenty of other games I could have fun with instead. For instance, I'm playing through Persona 4 Golden instead and having a blast.

Where will I go? I 'unno, outside maybe.

I was talking about MMOs... you can be subbed to FFXIV and play any offline game you want.

[OMGAFLYINGPENGUIN]

A lot of negativity in this thread... I ask the OP and everyone agreeing with the OP. Where will you go? Is there any other MMOs that even compare to what we currently have?
I support this game because it's the only MMO that is fun plus I want to support the game. There is no MMO out there that I want to play other than FFXIV.

You have a point many MMO follows the F2P Module. MOST Korean games are similar in terms of content and cash shops. Cash items having base on RNG. But being one of the better ones out there does not mean it is a game with quality (even if it was back then). People don't necessary have to find another MMO when they quit, they can simply move on with life. I mean just because there aren't no better games out there does not mean FF14 can stick to the way it is now, true? While I still love FF14 I think as of now, they need to really REALLY see why there is this outrage going on.

[YukikoViviage]

A lot of negativity in this thread... I ask the OP and everyone agreeing with the OP. Where will you go? Is there any other MMOs that even compare to what we currently have?
I support this game because it's the only MMO that is fun plus I want to support the game. There is no MMO out there that I want to play other than FFXIV.

MMO's Right now? None. In a few months time? Give and take 2-3 months? I'm outta here. I was considering juggling a few games, but with the crap they've pulled I just can't bring myself to pay that monthly fee anymore. The amount I'm about to save once my sub runs out can net me another AAA game. I've been a player since January of 2015, and I've already felt the burn out. I can't imagine how the other people who have stuck around since 2013 would feel.

[Aarik]

A lot of negativity in this thread... I ask the OP and everyone agreeing with the OP. Where will you go? Is there any other MMOs that even compare to what we currently have?
I support this game because it's the only MMO that is fun plus I want to support the game. There is no MMO out there that I want to play other than FFXIV.

I personally have been struggling to stay subbed, but these past few patches have painted a very disturbing trend that staying subscribed would only be seen as my approval for said trend. That being said, you ask what we currently have? We have Heavensward, an expansion that had an epic storyline but absolutely no new ideas (except flying, but that's transportation only). We have a raid that has essentially driven off the raiding community, the diadem that further rammed that last nail into the raid coffin, void ark which is so simple you can read a book while doing it, horribly neglected crafting, and now a 'new' relic questline that introduced absolutely nothing new; instead they copy/pasted directly from the old relic questline.

As for where we'll go? Well, you're operating under the assumption that we can only run to another MMO...which is very, very false. FO4, Star-Wars: Battlefront, one of the countless zombie games, ANNO, and countless other games. And that's just video games. I for one am getting back into mtg, and have friends that have convinced me to try D&D; honestly it sounds fun, if a bit silly. But that's just it; it'll be fun; something SE need to remember, perhaps?

....though I will admit, the Arboretum is very beautiful. Has nice music too. Probably the one thing I legitimately enjoyed for 3.1+.