What is wrong with people on the forum..?

[Atoli]

Back during the 2.X series we complained peacefully, telling SE their questline was outright boring.
What has changed in 3.15 ? Nothing. They even implemented more atma.

They listened to a lot of our feedback, actually.
People said requiring Titan was too hard, so no hard to clear fights are part of the relic quest anymore.
People said they didn't like running the same content again and again when everyone was farming light at Garuda, so this time, SE created a system where you could choose yourself which content you'd like to do.
People said they absolutely hated going through whole dungeons only to get cheated by the RNG god at the end, so this time, we just have to go through dungeons without having to hope that it somehow leads into progress.
People said they hate RNG in general, so this time, there is an elaborate token system in place that lets you work your way up in a slow but sure way; and the only remaining RNG-based step became skippable (along with droprates of crystals that are nowhere near as bad as Atma droprates were back in ARR).

This is a classic "Be careful what you wish for" situation. Yes, relic quests are generally tedious and boring these days. But they are, partially, because the forum once went through an incredible whine period back when people couldn't get their relic because of Titan.
That there should be new, interesting content involved in getting the relic is a valid complaint, but it's also quite unrealistic, since creating new trials, dungeons and raids requires a lot of funding, manpower and time, and they are already pressed on all of that going from 3.1 to 3.2.

It's funny, atoli, you say if we had a constructive argument all neatly set in one thread, the devs would be able to see what is going on and fix it.
Let's be generous and assume that actually happened. People would then claim it was "a minor issue" and beneath the notice of the devs. It also would not be as visible, provoking the existence of threads. Even with multiple threads, and posts of people deciding what to do with their subscription, there are people trying to be SE's spin doctors, saying this is the vocal minority, or other MMOfans working propaganda.
When does this get upgraded to a honest concern players have, Atoli? Remember, this is the 2nd relic.

The fact that the dev team tends to listen (and sometimes even reply) more to less panicky threads should tick you off on that it's probably not the most wise move to create a plethora of doomsday threads shouting "I'm unsubbing!" and then still being around months later, as we've seen again and again here.
And again, I never said there aren't honest concerns or that there aren't things they need to fix - in general and even particulary about this relic quest - but the way people are doing it is having the opposite effect of what they hope to achieve, because 1. pure whining and theatening is not gonna help to find the flaws, it 2. also drowns out the comments that ARE trying to be helpful by showing a breakdown what they consider wrong with content XY, and discredit an entire forum to the comm reps by acting in a way that is just downright embarassing sometimes. Especially those unsubbing theats, they only work so many times until you realize those people are still around after their 5th threat, so you can basically do whatever to them because they won't leave anyway, no matter what they tend to say.

[Stanelis]

but it's also quite unrealistic

Then it is also very unrealistic that SE will see my money again on FFXIV.

Also, there is a middle ground between requiring titan (which was endgame content back then) and what we have now. I've never seen anybody complain about chimera and Hydra.

People said they didn't like running the same content again and again when everyone was farming light at Garuda, so this time, SE created a system where you could choose yourself which content you'd like to do.

Yeah right, lets choose between pest and cholera.

[SinisterJointss]

They listened to a lot of our feedback, actually.
People said they didn't like running the same content again and again when everyone was farming light at Garuda, so this time, SE created a system where you could choose yourself which content you'd like to do.

What choice? People didnt just farm garuda for light, they did whatever was the fastest (bonus etc)

We still have to run THE SAME CONTENT OVER AND OVER.

I dont get how you cant see that, your rose tinted glasses are getting a little dirty if you ask me.

[Ilitsa]

What choice? People didnt just farm garuda for light, they did whatever was the fastest (bonus etc)

We still have to run THE SAME CONTENT OVER AND OVER.

I dont get how you cant see that, your rose tinted glasses are getting a little dirty if you ask me.

"Oh look, Titan is bonus, Fuck that, let's just do garuda til next window"

Yeah, people did "other things" it was Either T4 spam or Garuda HM spam.