What is wrong with people on the forum..?

[Atoli]

The thread title says it all. What is wrong with the people on this forum?
This incredible negativity I met here today is not even remotely a good reflection of what is happening ingame. All I see here are pages upon pages of people crying and throwing a fit over how demanding and too time-consuming the new relic quests are, after whining a truckload worth of threads about how they wanted the relic quests to be time-consuming.
Seriously, make up your damn mind, people

Also, the over-dramatization of them not liking the quest (which, btw, I personally absolutely love like no relic quest before) with what feels like hundreds of "This is the end of FFXIV!" and "I'm gonna quit!"-threads, even going so far as to accuse the devs of lying and going back on their promises - which they didn't, at least not in this case - is just ridiculous.

Meanwhile, most of the FFXIV population are ingame, happy to have something to do for the next weeks or months to come. Something they usually don't get to do, and FOR ONCE, something they can decide on themselves. Do I enjoy hunts? Would I rather play around with treasure maps, beastmen, crafting or maybe just do my dailies and buy the tokens slowly but surely with Law/Poetics?
After all, they included pretty much every single type of content there is, so no matter what it is that you enjoy, you can do that and are not forced into doing something you'd rather not. Not to mention they also gave specialists finally something useful to do.
But hey, horrible mini-patch, right?

So, what is this thread actually about?
Well, basically, it's a reminder.
A reminder to SE that, like with pretty much anything, the only ones who tend to write reviews online are the ones who are unhappy. The huge majority is ingame and is playing the actual game instead of complaining here. I have talked to hundereds of people today and not even one had a reaction even remotely similar to what you read here on the forums. So yeah, basically what I'm saying is, don't always listen to you forum. When the actual people ingame are leaving is when you have to worry, not when the same 30 people open up 5 new whine threads per hour to remind you how pissed off they are. Also, it's a first reaction. Many will probably calm down soon, even if they got up in arms on the first mention of 800 Alex runs or 50k+ Law stones.

It's also a reminder to any other positive forum-dweller that you are not alone
We might be few, but we do exist. Let's unite xD

And lastly, it's a reminder to all the people who are disappointed, furious and/or feeling entitled here. That you should sit back and slowly think about what this MMO gives you and what other MMOs offer.
Yes, sure, FFXIV is far from perfect. It has flaws, sometimes the content trickles super slowly and sometimes SE listens too well to our complaints (Savage as a reaction to all the "content is too easy" complaints, simple dps checks to all the "mechanics are too hard!" complaints, and now a time-consuming relic quest in response to all the requests to make it time-consuming).
But what FFXIV offers is a lot more than most other MMOs; it's not just pretty graphics, but lots of fun and different things to do. Many of you lament that some content is recycled or that the variety of mechanics hits a wall at some point, but do you seriously think other MMOs offer you 500 other types of mechanics than FFXIV does?
Nope. Fact is, they don't.
You'll still evade AoEs, fight debuffs in various ways and do quests that follow pretty much the same formulas.
So you might as well just stick with FFXIV and calm. the f*ck. down

[TheCurls]

There is less crying in game. And way more people having fun working on it all.

[Corfish]

There is less crying in game. And way more people having fun working on it all.

This. One of the basics of Marketing "If someone hates your product they'll tell 3 people. If someone loves your product you'll be lucky if they tell even 1." People like to complain more than they like to praise. So the people really bothered by the relic are complaining and trying to get the product fixed to meet their tastes.

Personally, I do think the relic is a little short sighted in its implementation, but I don't honestly think it's *that* much worse than 2.x's relics. At least this time around you have options of what you want to do for the horrid grind.

[basketofseals]

Well I'd like to put in my two cents and say that the few people I'm friends with don't like the new relic quest. It's just not fun. Isn't that in and of itself a problem?

As a casual, I can say it doesn't really motivate me either. Why would I do it? I suppose the journey of forging my own weapon would be cool, but I'd probably be better off just doing the ARR relic line, and then at least I'd have a cool glamour.

[SuperZay]

Meanwhile, 99% of the FFXIV population are ingame, happy to have something to do for the next weeks or months to come.

You speak for 99%? Because in all my linkshells today I read as much bitching as here on forums.

[GideonHighmourn]

The idea that there is something "wrong" with people who have feedback on content they are paying for is kind of lost on me. Care to explain why there's something wrong with people who aren't happy with the content they've purchased with their subscription? Or what's "wrong" with their expressing that sentiment in the area SE has provided for them to post it?

[Kaiden019]

MMO forums are often used for complaining especially after a patch drops. Anything you see on the forums or from the reddit comes from the vocal minority. Don't let it sway your feelings toward the game.

[Teryaani]

People come to the forums to complain. In game? People seem okay. Not thrilled maybe, but okay.

[Ruri]

People will always complain on forums, there are rarely positive posts. This goes for any game forum I have ever been a part of. Some is justified some is not. Just get used to it and ignore all the negativity that you do not agree with. Welcome to the internet

In game I have seen plenty of complaining on LS/FC chat and yet people are still doing the relic quest. So they aren't giving up on it but just don't like the fact its mindless grinding with no actual challenge involved (which I agree with but will still do just because its something to do inbetween content)

[Gardes]

Meanwhile, 99% of the FFXIV population are ingame, happy to have something to do for the next weeks or months to come.

Should have said 100%.

100% in the sense that 1000 people lined up for a pie, find out they're serving mud pie instead of apple pie, 500 got upset and left without taking the pie while 500 pie stayed at the tables and ate the mud pie. Technically you can say that 100% at the tables are happy with it.