You have to be tone deaf to think that is what people are complaining about.

No, not exactly. Some people are complaining about how obscene the process is, however it doesn't solely lies with that. But if you actually go through some of the topics there are other factors that has caused this outrage and it has been mostly a domino effect from previous patches. I'm reading gamefaqs and reddit and if you are able to filter out those who are whining I'm sure you can see the bigger picture.



In my experience the haters yell loudest which is why the forums are constantly so negative OP.
Don't worry not everyone hates the relic quest. I understand their annoyance and anger but I don't know what they expected lol.. its relic.. it's always been grindy and taken weeks/months to finish steps unless you have infinite resources and there are just some things you can't make magically appear without the passage of time.... like runs, tome farming, beast dailies so on and so forth
They just want it handed to them which makes no sense to me. It's the relic.
If you don't like the grind then I suggest seeking your main hand elsewhere. I'm also not trying to be a white knight but i'm also realistic and I know that every step of the previous relic was just as annoying, hard, grindy, and bad in previous patches at their launch. Yes things got easier to clear, obtain and were nerfed... but when they first came out? I don't think so.
Relic is something to obtain over time not have handed to you on the first day.


Yes and no one argues that they just hand it to you.
But what is the point of a weapon that takes so long to get that by the time you managed to complete it the item level it provides is already outdated?
Good items are only good if you manage to get them early enough to they can be of actual use.
Everything beyond that is glamor only and THIS kind of grind for a glamor? I think not.
Also the quest is WAY beyond uninspired and boring. Feels like some intern slapped it together during lunch break.
And FFS what's with the "run 2.x content again lul" thing?!
I'm just mad that this quest line was very lazy on their part. Really we waited months for something they threw together in a few weeks. The first models of the relic is the esoteric models. Mindless grinding I expected but Damn how lazy can you be? I have to look at the exact same model of a weapon I already have but a lower ilvl. How people can defend is questionable to me. If they didn't push this back so many times for such underwhelming content then less people would probably be upset. Not only are they not coming up with new content, now they have stopped creating new items.
How this forum reacts some times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=280yPTyei0U
I would like to start off by saying I love a good grind. I don't mind spending 2 to 6 months of grinding for something. But what I don't like is having to spend months on mind numbing content such as fates or what ever just to get said item.
The devs started out right in 2.0 on how you got the i80 relic. At that time it was kinda tough but it was a Boat Load of fun. The steps after the i90 relic almost made me quit the game...
3.0 was suppose to be a game changer. The devs should have took down their safety nets and took a freaken chance and made something new. Most of us waited over 5 months for this new relic. And after seeing how mind numbing the FIRST STEP is makes kinda go "huh" wtf is this SE?
Here is what I would have done differently:
I was hoping we would need to do certain quests that kinda followed what the 1 quest did for the 3 towers, you know the quest that allowed you to get materials that upgraded Poetic gear... but instead we would have to run certain dungeons, and perhaps the 24 person raids to get certain items but in this case crystals and mats to create the 3.0 weapon.
Once we get the i170 weapon we then move on to other objectives like running 10 fates in each of the new areas to obsorb the aither souls to strengthen the weapon to i180.
For the 3rd step we would need to farm ALL primals (at least 3 times) to gather certain mats (non-tradable) that are needed for the black smith to enhance the weapon even further by encasing the trapped soul aither (primals are the perfect choice for this because they hold aither in them but the question is how? this would have been a good way to answer that question).
Then finally we would need to farm coils 1 - 13 a few times (unsynced of course) to retrieve certain artifacts that will help magnify the power of the trapped aither souls and of course change the entire look of the weapon.
Then of course I would start on NEW CONTENT specifically for the 3.0 relic for 3.2.... Not only would this take a while to do but it would be a heck of a lot better than doing HOURSSSSSSSSSSSSS of fates and boring beast tribe quests. And hey it might just make players better in the process because coils 9 - 13 are no joke.
Last edited by Astral145; 12-17-2015 at 05:06 PM.



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