What is wrong with people on the forum..?

[Conando]

I'm not even sure people are still upset about it being a grind so much as it being literally every single Relic grind from 2.2+.

[Aarik]

I'm not even sure people are still upset about it being a grind so much as it being literally every single Relic grind from 2.2+.

I dunno, they didn't include light grinding! We can only assume they're saving that for the next step....10000 light with a bis/rav EX fight netting you 4 light seems about right

[Eul]

Especially on the last phase of relic. >_>

[PawsTheKitti123]

I love how everyone's complaining about it yet they still do it and keep their sub while they threaten SE to unsub behind their PCs/Ps4(3s) as they farm

I also love how people are speaking for others and saying how everyone else should unsub too

These relics have literally made my server's pf have like 15 pfs up which made me happy because my server is very inactive and people are showing up to do the relics. I for one have absutely zero interest in relics, so I sit back and watch the rage on the forums with a nice big bucket of popcorn and a smile

[PawsTheKitti123]

Oh and lastly, I love how people are unsubbing because of relics. I dont know what they expected really.. How about instead of a grind SE just hands them out? In all honesty would you guys like that better? :P

[Lemuria]

Oh and lastly, I love how people are unsubbing because of relics. I dont know what they expected really..

Can people please stop using this line as if it excuses SE from being lazy developers? Is it too much to ask a developer, who I might add helped to revive 1.0 from the grave, and has been responsible for many great innovations over the years, to actually think about what they add instead of throwing in mindless grinds?

Anyone who can't see why people are complaining are blatantly blinkered to the obvious. This isn't a one-patch complaint. This is a multi-patch complaint. We've had the same thing in every single update since Heavensward. Heck, Heavensward itself didn't really offer anything particularly new in terms of mechanics. Just new zones to fight across, and a continuation of the story. Flight is about the only real 'new' mechanic we've had aside from mini games, and that doesn't really change much since there's little reason to revisit the zones aside from gathering.

Can we all at least agree that this isn't just something people decided overnight? This is something which has been growing and festering for a while, and people are really getting fed up of being offered the same thing over and over again. Gear is stale, with only item levels to distinguish between shiny sword one and shiny sword two. Sort that problem out, and they'd have already breathed a huge new lease of life into a steadily ageing game.

tl;dr: This problem has been around for ages, and it's only getting worse with each update. It's not new.

[Zumi]

I see a lot of people having a good time in the game, PF full of fate and dungeon parties. People excited to be working on the new relic. Unlike a lot of the complainers on the forum there are a lot of us having fun with FFXIV.

[PawsTheKitti123]

I see a lot of people having a good time in the game, PF full of fate and dungeon parties. People excited to be working on the new relic. Unlike a lot of the complainers on the forum there are a lot of us having fun with FFXIV.

This. ^

People are saying the game is dead over ONE patch. People are unsubbing over this... I feel bad for SE mostly. They try to give people something to do since its been boring since 3.1 launch and people are taking their hard work and poopin' on it.

[Viridiana]

This. ^

People are saying the game is dead over ONE patch. People are unsubbing over this... I feel bad for SE mostly. They try to give people something to do since its been boring since 3.1 launch and people are taking their hard work and poopin' on it.

I replied to you in part above, but I'll say more here.

I don't think it's all over one patch. There's been simmering discontent since 3.0 brought...flying, and not much else. Then they added a story version of an endgame raid whose story is underwhelming, and gated crafting/gathering progress behind a ridiculous grind. I can't say much about the discontent over Savage, but A3S seems to be a wall a lot of groups aren't clearing. Now they add a new relic quest chain and it's a moderately better rehash of some of the worst parts of the ARR relic. It's kinda been a chain of "what the eff" since about 3.0.

[Arashmin]

I've definitely already removed my cc and am only paying in Crysta for when I intend to pay now. I was fine having weeks barely having anything to want to do and days not logging in, and I'm not going to let some badly designed content force it's hand to do that either now. I'll play when it's good.

Also, check the Reddit. The salt mines are going equally strong there, it's not an isolated incident, nor should it be.