help with crafting..

[Cycloptichorn]

I'm at r35 armorer, and it's not so bad, but does take a long time. I just do it when I normally would be watching a movie or tv anyway,

I don't really have a problem with that though, b/c unlike other games, in MMO's you keep your skills for a long, long, long time. Once you hit top rank, you're able to crank out the best items in the game for what, a year, till they raise the level cap? That's supposed to be a really difficult level to reach.

The problem with turning it into a more skillful minigame, is that it's really difficult to make ones that are difficult enough to stop people who are good at those games from just owning them, and still fun at the same time.

As a side question, I had thought that sub-craft requirements were done away with in the latest patch; is this not true? I have some stuff which I'm still getting a 'your leatherworking isn't high enough...' for.

[Charismatic]

Yes, because that is what the devs want. Everyone becomes level 50 crafter in a week and screw the economy even worse than it is. Brains. You can have this.

You're the only one implying anyone wants this. Once again, and I'll say please this time.... please stop being dumb.

[neizero]

As a side question, I had thought that sub-craft requirements were done away with in the latest patch; is this not true? I have some stuff which I'm still getting a 'your leatherworking isn't high enough...' for.

That would be because yo're crafting "Dated" gear which still has same requirements as they used to. Only new recipes don't require any extra skills. Note that most leves still have you craft dated stuff.

[Wynn]

You're the only one implying anyone wants this. Once again, and I'll say please this time.... please stop being dumb.

Are you just trolling or what? What happens if you reduce xp required to level?

What the heck are you even commenting on the level curve for crafting anyway? Your highest level craft class is 15 which you can get by sneezing practically. You don't even know what you're talking about. Stick to the marauder boards. You'll have less chance of embarrassing yourself.

[Charismatic]

Are you just trolling or what? What happens if you reduce xp required to level?

What the heck are you even commenting on the level curve for crafting anyway? Your highest level craft class is 15 which you can get by sneezing practically. You don't even know what you're talking about. Stick to the marauder boards. You'll have less chance of embarrassing yourself.

The thing about people like you is you always think in extremes. Clearly if you lower it at all, everyone's going to have crafts maxed in a week... seriously stupid.

[jones6]

I don't like that the crafting system is more about spending time spamming one option that can fail randomly even with great gear. Nothing really challenging about it. Hopefully something is changed. They changed the battle system because people were spamming the same option but never mentioned crafting.

Then once you get to rank 50 you can try to make HQ items that are pretty much useless since they only add 3 defense at most for armor. At least make the HQ items produce more of the bonus stats other than 3 measly defense for a +3 item. HQ armor items that are for crafting offer 0 stat realted bonuses unless defense somehow really affects crafting. I thought I was working towards rank 50 to be able to randomly make valuable gear.

[KalaKenshu]

Boo hoo. Go wack at something with your sword if crafting is not to your liking. Take a look at my sig. I know full well the time involved in crafting. How about you stop being dumb and do something you enjoy instead of complaining about doing something you don't?

That is SO naive and ignorant.. Wow, if they catered the game to players like you, who would they have? No one. Seriously, if the MAJORITY of players find a certain aspect (a very LARGE aspect mind you) of the game to be boring, they should probably make it more F**KING interesting. Not everyone would rather spend time mindlessly pressing enter than doing something productive or, god forbid, FUN with their time?

[KalaKenshu]

You're the only one implying anyone wants this. Once again, and I'll say please this time.... please stop being dumb.

Agreed, completely. What an arrogant tool... Get your head checked, Wynn, I don't know what slave planet you were born on, but around here people usually aim for this thing called moderation.

[Wynn]

That is SO naive and ignorant.. Wow, if they catered the game to players like you, who would they have? No one. Seriously, if the MAJORITY of players find a certain aspect (a very LARGE aspect mind you) of the game to be boring, they should probably make it more F**KING interesting. Not everyone would rather spend time mindlessly pressing enter than doing something productive or, god forbid, FUN with their time?

Reducing xp needed to gain crafting levels =/= more interesting crafting. Nor would it satisfy anyone who wants it unless it was drastic to the point of stupidity so they wouldn't have to sit there and grind on a craft. That's what this comes down to. Instant gratification.

Also, don't come here talking about demographics. You have absolutely nothing at all to back up any of your assertions other than your belief that you fall within some sort of majority. A believe most people have, regardless of what is the reality.

Additionally, just because you want something doesn't make it right. Even if a whole bunch of other people also want what you want. Since we are pointing fingers and slinging insults here, the problem with people like you and the ironically named charismatic over there is that you aren't able to see past your own nose to know when something is not good for the entirety of the situation. You only care about the immediate impact it has on you.

[Viridiana]

Reducing xp needed to gain crafting levels =/= more interesting crafting. Nor would it satisfy anyone who wants it unless it was drastic to the point of stupidity so they wouldn't have to sit there and grind on a craft. That's what this comes down to. Instant gratification.

Also, don't come here talking about demographics. You have absolutely nothing at all to back up any of your assertions other than your belief that you fall within some sort of majority. A believe most people have, regardless of what is the reality.

Additionally, just because you want something doesn't make it right. Even if a whole bunch of other people also want what you want. Since we are pointing fingers and slinging insults here, the problem with people like you and the ironically named charismatic over there is that you aren't able to see past your own nose to know when something is not good for the entirety of the situation. You only care about the immediate impact it has on you.

I don't even care about the actual XP required to level crafting. That's not what bothers me. What bothers me is that the entirety of the crafting experience is composed of hitting enter and occasionally up. Monotony isn't exactly engaging. And, yes, there is some middle ground somewhere between the current state of things and one in which everyone instantly levels to 50. I'm not sure what that middle ground is. I'm not sure anyone knows, even. I do know, however, that expressing displeasure with the current state of affairs is more likely to inspire SE to try something different.