Temporarily shutting the servers down until 2.0 is NOT a good idea!

[Catapult]

Allow me to put it in layman's terms.

The Version 2.0 migration is the "sever problem fixes" they have been talking about for so long.

Putting 1 and 1 together...

[Hanemakikaze]

The whole world change and class "changed playstyles" thing has been done (read WoW Cataclysm). So yes, it will be the same game with patches and feedback from players pre-2.0.

Cataclysm? Have you actually played that? Hardly ANYTHING was changed, a few of the areas had insignificant landscape changes, no play style was changed, not one. A few classes got a nerf, thats not "changing a playstyle" and I'm telling you this from playing experience. 2.0 FFXIV =/= Cataclysm, so that argument isn't even valid.

[Lavani]

Lol I completed all of cataclysm. And as far as world change this game has about as many zones that cataclysm changed/introduced, if not less. The play style did change however little for most classes, healers mana, hunters focus etc. The class playstyle changes coming to FF14 will not be much more dramatic. I know this isn't cataclysm but it's a comparison that proves my point because although those changes were made to WoW, it didn't change the fact that it's WoW. Same will happen with FF14 and i do hope it's for the best. So come P2P ill leave, and come back with a trial for 2.0, if it's fun and worthwhile i may stay.

[Jennestia]

The thing is, it's not a "brand new game" it's the same game with things fixed, haven't you seen the timeline of changes?

http://wdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/dow...Roadmap_EN.pdf

The whole world change and class "changed playstyles" thing has been done (read WoW Cataclysm). So yes, it will be the same game with patches and feedback from players pre-2.0.

I actually "Read: World of Balance/World of Ruin" when I thought of the world change.

[TirionCrey]

By that definition the recent scrap they did not long ago would qualify it as a new game, which it's not.

Overhauling the battle system is hardly enough to call it a new game...

Changing EVERYTHING in the game and start from scratch though sure is!

PS: I won't play FFXIV 2.0 as well, as I stopped playing FFXIV around 3 months ago...my RL doesn't give me the chance to play and have any decent progress w/o my RL suffering, so my choice is clear...

[Hanemakikaze]

Lol I completed all of cataclysm. And as far as world change this game has about as many zones that cataclysm changed/introduced, if not less. The play style did change however little for most classes, healers mana, hunters focus etc. The class playstyle changes coming to FF14 will not be much more dramatic. I know this isn't cataclysm but it's a comparison that proves my point because although those changes were made to WoW, it didn't change the fact that it's WoW. Same will happen with FF14 and i do hope it's for the best. So come P2P ill leave, and come back with a trial for 2.0, if it's fun and worthwhile i may stay.

Already stated the only changes to classes in cataclysm were nerfs. And claiming you completed cataclysm doesn't really hold much water so pretty pointless to state, and it's not the "playstyle changes" come 2.0 I'm talking about, it's the rest of game so I don't even know what point you're trying to prove. So yeah, I guess this entire argument about playstyle is pointless in itself so I'm done.

[Lavani]

Cataclysm? Have you actually played that

Lol I completed all of cataclysm.

And claiming you completed cataclysm doesn't really hold much water so pretty pointless to state

You doubted my knowledge of the game, I know about it and i'm sure you do too.

The thing is the rest of the game isn't "Changing" they are simply fixing and adding to it.

[Rhianu]

How do you quote me & completely miss what I'm saying? We are not testing a thing right now, nor when we start paying. I'm saying we should be testing 2.0 starting the payment cycle, you know the actual "new" game, not the current one that's being scrapped within a few months which has no real effect at all how the new version will turn out.

The current version isn't being scrapped. All the improvements and additions that SE has made since launch are all going to be kept in the game, as will all of the currently existing content and jobs. SE isn't throwing away everything they've worked on since launch. Version 2.0 is simply going to be the culmination of all the updates and changes they've made over a period of two years.

Cataclysm? Have you actually played that? Hardly ANYTHING was changed, a few of the areas had insignificant landscape changes, no play style was changed, not one.

LOLWUT?

Cataclysm made HUGE changes to WoW. Denying that is just foolish and ignorant.

[Dragon]

Topic - Indeed, it may have been a good time a year ago to just shut down the servers until they got something going like now; though now with us where we are now, it is entirely unintuitive to do so. Best thing SE can do is to move forward now.

Oh boy, reality check time, buddy.


When you copy and paste data on your own computer, altering that data while it is being copy/pasted corrupts the data. This is why computers have a fail-safe prohibition against altering data in transit. Saving files 101.
If people were still updating their character data as SE were trying to move it, all sorts of problems would arise, most notably the existence of partial roll-backs. Utter chaos I tell you.

Hence why I believe them competent, as they are shutting the servers down to do this.



What on earth makes you think the servers are going down entirely for the next year? O_o

They have made it quite clear that the current system will continue to be updated and reviewed as it is the working model off which all version 2.0 content is based. Monitoring and amendments to the version 1 system will allow better development on the version 2 system.

Then when everything gets replaced by version 2.0 servers and engines, things will go down for a few days, maybe a week tops, to do the final copy/paste of current character and progression data into the new servers that have been prepared for this over the prior 18 months.

You're not being booted off the game right now. Heck, they're going to be charging us as of next month - they're not about to take the game away from us as well.

There's some confusion going on, and the problem is that in your original post that you seemingly addressed the OP, it's apparent that you missed what the OP was talking about which is servers being taken offline for several months as some people claim would have been a good thing on SE's part.

[kensredemption]

As long as my character doesn't get deleted, I could care less whether or not the servers are shut down for awhile. It'll spare me the grief of enduring the constant bombardment from relentless trolls for awhile, for what that's worth.