"Fun comes first"

[OMGAFLYINGPENGUIN]

Oh really? I stopped raiding because alex wasnt fun.. Coil was fun. Crystal tower was fun, void ark, not so much.....

Step 1(i170) and Step 2 (i200) is fine frankly, but i200-i210 is somewhat obscene. You need about 630 successful alexander runs (including the law option), which many players dread going back in there. Why players are unhappy because they want to see change, not something thats almost 90% similar and how the things they have introduced to counter certain issues.

Alexander NM has been somewhat dead for awhile, so they introduced this to relic. HW's Fates are dead so they introduced atmas in the HW maps. And lastly having specific HQ crafted items to give crafters a chance. But, on smaller servers with lesser veteran crafters the prices for these items costs too much, about 16-20M for all HQ crafted items.

I don’t think it isn’t just the NA community that has something to say about this, the Japanese forums too.

[RiceisNice]

Step 1(i170) and Step 2 (i200) is fine frankly, but i200-i210 is somewhat obscene.

Step 2 might be fine in context, but not when all it serves to do is literally to pad in a grind. It doesn't help add life to 2.x dungeons because it allow for unsync (which is faster if you can even two man it together). Honestly, the 2.x dungeons weren't needed and they could've done fine with all 3.x dungeons and EX primals.

[Snowaeth]

Found this on gamefaqs and this made my day, though I am extremely neutral about the whole relic thing, I can understand completely understand why many are unhappy.

http://captiongenerator.com/73563/In...elic-developer

Source : http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/67805...eborn/73007694

Haha this is spot on and hilarious AF.

[Renault]

Oh really? I stopped raiding because alex wasnt fun.. Coil was fun. Crystal tower was fun, void ark, not so much. Most of my friends have stopped playing since Alex didnt meet their expectations, so yeah, I'm a bit happy that we can do the relic and enjoy it

If you didn't like Alexander then I have bad news for you about the final step.

[OMGAFLYINGPENGUIN]

If you didn't like Alexander then I have bad news for you about the final step.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._weapon_guide/ for your reference.

[Tayolynn]

SE's relic content model can be found in the form of simple merchandise in stores.

[Heskett]

Its as if you guys forgot that the final Anima weapon will be the best weapon in the game for the 5-6 month period between 3.X's final patch and 4.0.

That's why you do it now. Sure you'll replace it 3 weeks into 3.2, but then you'll grind and use it again for 3.25 and so on.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

Its as if you guys forgot that the final Anima weapon will be the best weapon in the game for the 5-6 month period between 3.X's final patch and 4.0.

That's why you do it now. Sure you'll replace it 3 weeks into 3.2, but then you'll grind and use it again for 3.25 and so on.

Which will be irrelevant when 4.0 comes off and we will wait another 6 months after that launch to do a diferent named atma, fate and dungeon grind. Its not a goal problem, its not a time problem, its straight quality, care, love and innovation (lack of them all) problem.

[Jinrya-Geki]

Its as if you guys forgot that the final Anima weapon will be the best weapon in the game for the 5-6 month period between 3.X's final patch and 4.0.

That's why you do it now. Sure you'll replace it 3 weeks into 3.2, but then you'll grind and use it again for 3.25 and so on.

And in FFXI a 10+ year old game relic weapons nearly that old are still good to use even with newer cotent out. Something FFXIV should be doing as well but failing miserably.

[OMGAFLYINGPENGUIN]

SE's relic content model can be found in the form of simple merchandise in stores.

Is it me or your character looks a lot like aerith O_O.

On topic : Before FF, I played a game called Dragon nest. They had system and things that worked before and they strongly believed that if something has worked because it should work again. Thus for 4 years of playing the community saw Raids with the same design, mechanics, gear progression
& cash shop updates with the thing either recolored, added effects or wings. And the players who were their biggest spenders and contributors just left. Reusing something doesn’t work for every game, eventually players will get burnt out no matter how persistent or hardcore one is. Even the most supportive players are criticizing recent thing.