"Fun comes first"

[Imoen]

Both honestly, still got classes to level, new relic stuff, gearing my Dragoon. Socializing side I level my classes with my buds now and again, I also sit around and chat now and again, not gonna lie on that lol.

Ah ok, as I said I was just curious because even the most boring tasks in the world can be entertaining with friends.

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I play solo a lot and I personally am starting to find it hard to log in. Maybe I'm just burnt out. I have taken 2 longer breaks from HW since it came out.

[Croweyes]

Ah ok, as I said I was just curious because even the most boring tasks in the world can be entertaining with friends.

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I play solo a lot and I personally am starting to find it hard to log in. Maybe I'm just burnt out. I have taken 2 longer breaks from HW since it came out.

Ah, no problem. Well if your ever find yourself in Balmung look me up and we'll hang out.
It's always good to take a brake when you start feeling the burnout, nothing negative about it to you or the game. Anything can give a "burn out" feeling.

[Starkbeaumont]

what about? it's not fun, don't do it!

the whole game is not fun? don't pay them, look somewhere else.

[ksuisa]

Fun should come first with any game. But it's not as simple as just putting in fun things for players to do, especially in an MMO. All games need some challenge to overcome so you get a sense of reward as well. The challenge can come from many things like completing a difficult dungeon, solving a puzzle, or just grinding endlessly. But the end prize should always feel worth the effort. If you put content in that has a skewed reward to challenge ratio then players are gonna complain no matter what. Too easy for reward, players complain. Too hard to get reward, players complain. You need balance and that is something these new Relic Weapons lack. Since FFXIV pretty much only has vertical progression this weapon will always be getting outclassed and everybody knows that. The way progression works really kills the chance of the relic holding the title of best weapon for very long, and it only takes away from the sense of reward.

[Yukiko]

What happened to this philosophy, SE? You've created content that:

1) Should have been released the same time as Alexander normal
2) Has us grinding the same crap we've been grinding for the past 6 months
3) Re-uses the same ideas which had a massive negative influence on the game as a whole (FATE grinding, atmas)
4) Yoshi-P himself even said he would not want to do this content. If that's the case, WHY MAKE IT?

I believe SE should worry more about making a game that's FUN, not just a game that has boring, thoughtless grinds to keep us subscribed.

Where does that fear come that players would leave when they can not grind?
I wonder how the game would look like when SE just stops worrying about artificial delaying progress?
I believe it could be a great game that makes fun, but SE have to get rid of their money milking the playerbase!

[Doki]

SE has literally insulted their players with this questline. Not only is the grind ridiculous the worst part of the quest is called "Soul with no Life."

At least the testimonial grind in FFXI that insulted you for earning it still gave you the best fishing rod in the game for many years:


All we get for the current grind is a weapon that is the same exact item level as 2 other weapons that would end up taking you FAR LESS TIME TO EARN.

[Evangela]

Playing video games should be entertaining. That's the core of any form of entertainment.

We cameback home after school/work and what we want the most is having fun before we go to bed. That's why we watch TV, movies, sports, listen to music, and play video games.

If there's a video game that I have to do a lot of "works" that are not entertaining AT ALL, why should I waste my time on it?

See the first relic for the example. You have to fight Chimera, Hydra, Ifrit, Garuda, and Titan to earn your relic. It's FUN. That's what they should be giving us.

[ZachrielCL]

4) Yoshi-P himself even said he would not want to do this content. If that's the case, WHY MAKE IT?

This right here is the question the staff should be asking themselves. Why make something not even them want to play?

[Callback]

When has anything in this game ever been fun?

[ksuisa]

When has anything in this game ever been fun?

Finally someone asking the real questions.

(I had a lot of fun with that dragon on a bridge fight when it first came out)