"Fun comes first"

[OMGAFLYINGPENGUIN]

You guys are severely over-exaggerating how long Anima grind will be.

Not really, 12-20Mil for HQ items, depending on servers. 630 Successful Alexander run, provided you don't get sick of it already with savage and having to farm that for 6months. Queueing time if you're a DPS unless you can find a party.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...aring&sle=true you can use this, its a calculator to determine how long it'd take if you go with other options rather than 1.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Not really, 12-20Mil for HQ items, depending on servers.

For day 1

This stuff always drops over the weeks following... the arrows are only 400k a piece on balmung already

[OMGAFLYINGPENGUIN]

For day 1

This stuff always drops over the weeks following... the arrows are only 400k a piece on balmung already

Balmung is a populated server.. there are plenty of veteran crafters like masamune and tonberry. Its cheaper on my server too yes but what about those in a small server?

I mean with all due respect don't get me wrong I'm not picking a fight with you, I personally think just because it works for some people it doesn't work for everyone. Some people enjoy it, some don't. I'm merely showing why there are people who dislike it, they have their right to voice out their opinion. And although I'm still neutral as hell, the problems with this is extremely prominent. Although you might have friends to do this with you on balmung and enjoy the process, it might be the opposite for others. Some barely have 3hrs of game time per day.

[Zumi]

I been having great fun doing the relic quest. Its pretty much what I expected it to be. Now I have a lot more stuff to do in the game.

[Yshnal]

Reusing something doesn’t work for every game, eventually players will get burnt out no matter how persistent or hardcore one is. Even the most supportive players are criticizing recent thing.

When even players that have been subbed for 2+ years start leaving, one would think that there's something wrong.

I been having great fun doing the relic quest. Its pretty much what I expected it to be. Now I have a lot more old stuff to repeat another 800 times in the game.

Fixed.

[pushin_tin]

OP, just letting you know that the last time I posted a thread with an image pointing out Yoshida's hypocrisy, it earned me ten days on the beach. Hopefully you are prepared for martyrdom.

[darkendfaith]

I would like to say this: This wasnt designed with "fun" in mind, this was designed to try and keep people wanting to "pay" for the game over months at a time. This is probably why yoshi said he wouldnt want to do this content, "sustainable business model" is the key thing here. Also, SE likes to create skinner boxes (look up skinner box on google and think in terms of MMO's pretty messed up thinking about it like that but it's scary how true it is). It's kinda sad they still dont listen to players even after the flop of 1.0. I was in beta for that, we went nuts on forums when they released a date to actually release the game. Not finished, bad implementation, really laggy servers, actions not working properly, etc etc. But they still released it LOL. Sad but the truth is, they are creating a game based upon wanting to keep people paying to funnel money into other projects, thats what it boils down to.

[Ailanthus]

I am not having fun, but I understand some people enjoy this kind of grind because 210 raid weapons may be difficult for them to obtain.

[pushin_tin]

I am not having fun, but I understand some people enjoy this kind of grind because 210 raid weapons may be difficult for them to obtain.

Hmm, 3 months of grinding...

Or ten minutes watching/reading a guide on my class, maybe an hour on a target dummy, then actually progressing through Alex Savage which is overgeared at this point.

I guarantee if you devote yourself to the latter option it would be WAY faster.

[ElHeggunte]

Hmm, it's almost as though "Fun" were a subjective concept.