"Fun comes first"

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

A lot of people are doing the relic and bitching about it the entire way. That's a sure-fire way to cause burn out which can only be bad for the game.

It was like this with atmas, and nexus, and zodiak too, and the game didnt decline or lose subs, even though the forums were just as ragey as now.

[Renault]

Thats just your opinion, nearly all of PF on balmung is relic related, so clearly its not the popular opinion either. My fc has been making fun of the forums for complaining so much about the relics, most of us are working on them without caring that its grindy

That's also just your opinion. Just because people are doing the relic (The fate farming is not the part people are complaining about btw, it's the last step.) Does not mean they find it enjoyable. There is simply nothing else to do in the game.

[Stormrider]

Thats just your opinion, nearly all of PF on balmung is relic related, so clearly its not the popular opinion either. My fc has been making fun of the forums for complaining so much about the relics, most of us are working on them without caring that its grindy

Strange almost every zone on Balmung has someone complaining and people agreeing with them. Also people questioning the thought process of repeating an old system. Balmung has enough old players from other MMOs they will buckle down do the crap and live with it. How many crabs do you think the combined population of Balmung has put down in their day?

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Thats just your opinion, nearly all of PF on balmung is relic related, so clearly its not the popular opinion either. My fc has been making fun of the forums for complaining so much about the relics, most of us are working on them without caring that its grindy

Gilgamesh has 47 PFs at around 2-3pm, Balmung has averaged over 30 all day, as have other servers. So despite the game supposedly dying, it seems not everyone's getting the motto. Fancy that.

If you actually break down the Anima grind, it's not that bad. People here just look at only one method and lose their minds.

Balmung is a populated servers.. there are plenty of veteran crafters like masamune and tonberry. Its cheaper on my server too yes but what about those in a small server?

What about them? Even if they released a bevy of content, small servers will always lag behind the bigger ones. The fact remains for a game supposedly seeing a mass exodus, the PF on those big servers increased on an early Wednesday of all days.

[BreathlessTao]

Thats just your opinion, nearly all of PF on balmung is relic related, so clearly its not the popular opinion either.

And saying this is not seeing the wood for the trees. Yeah, sure, the PF might be full of relic-related ads, but that doesn't mean everyone flocking to it loves it to death. It only means that people are interested in having a relic weapon, they want to have a relic weapon, whatever that might entail* - and/or that a lot had nothing "fresh" to do for a while and they just jumped at this because it's something "new" to do. It's not a proof at all of nobody having any problem with any part of it.
Look at it this way: everyone's using this crummy glamour system we have, does it mean it's an awesome design that everyone loves? Nope, it means that this is what we have so we're forced to use it if we want to appear wearing different gear than what we actually have equipped. Try adding a proper glamour log that requires no physical items, no prisms and such, and have it alongside what we do have for a while - then we'd see which one is loved more.
*: taking advantage of that in such a blatant way and throwing the worst parts at people (at players, at paying customers) again, after numerous expressions of displeasure, with zero effort, just because "they'll do it anyway"....well, that is just bad form. Really, really bad form.


As for the OP: YES, YES, YES, A MILLION TIMES YES. I would really love to hear Yoshi reflect to these, especially in regards to the relic quests now, but in general as well, because let's face it, the fun seeped out of the game quite a while ago, content-wise. And it's quite baffling to see, to hear, to experience how disjointed the players and the devs have become, especially when thinking back of that exact thing that's in the OP. It's like most, if not all, of that disappeared and has been replaced with ¥_¥ eyes and /grabbyhands. Simply very sad.

[Snowaeth]

Found this on gamefaqs and this made my day, though I am extremely neutral about the whole relic thing, I can understand completely understand why many are unhappy.

http://captiongenerator.com/73563/In...elic-developer

Source : http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/67805...eborn/73007694

Haha this is spot on and hilarious AF.

[Tayolynn]

SE's relic content model can be found in the form of simple merchandise in stores.

[OMGAFLYINGPENGUIN]

SE's relic content model can be found in the form of simple merchandise in stores.

Is it me or your character looks a lot like aerith O_O.

On topic : Before FF, I played a game called Dragon nest. They had system and things that worked before and they strongly believed that if something has worked because it should work again. Thus for 4 years of playing the community saw Raids with the same design, mechanics, gear progression
& cash shop updates with the thing either recolored, added effects or wings. And the players who were their biggest spenders and contributors just left. Reusing something doesn’t work for every game, eventually players will get burnt out no matter how persistent or hardcore one is. Even the most supportive players are criticizing recent thing.

[Yasuhiro]

http://captiongenerator.com/73563/In...elic-developer

Source : http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/67805...eborn/73007694

Lol that part at 3:06
it's funny because a ton of people on this forum would defend that and just say crap like "Have you got all your jobs to 60? Have you got all your achievements? Have you unlocked all primal mounts? did you beat AS4 yet? No? then don't complain :^)"