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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    It wasn't before. Unfortunately the devs have taken "casual" to mean "completely unskilled," and so now we have replaced Hydra and Titan with FATEs and Beast Tribe quests.
    Step 2 - Obtain Inferno Seal x3, Tremor Seal x3, Vortex Seal x3 from Rank 2 Hamlet (gold chest requiring 60K+ scores)
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    Step 11 - Gather a certain number of beastcoins from the appropriate beatmen tribe (10 stacks Tier 1 OR 5 stacks Tier 2 OR 1 stack Tier 3)
    PLD = 990 of the Bronze Amalj'ok OR 495 of the Iron Amalj'ok OR 99 Darksteel Amalj'ok
    MNK = 990 of the Bronze Amalj'ok OR 495 of the Iron Amalj'ok OR 99 Darksteel Amalj'ok
    WAR = 990 of the Titan Copperpiece OR 495 of the Titan Mythrilpiece OR 99 Titan Electrumpiece
    DRG = 990 of the Ixali Willowknots OR 495 of the Ixali Mapleknots OR 99 Ixali Ebonknots
    BRD = 990 of the Ixali Willowknots OR 495 of the Ixali Mapleknots OR 99 Ixali Ebonknots
    WHM = 990 of the Titan Copperpiece OR 495 of the Titan Mythrilpiece OR 99 Titan Electrumpiece
    BLM = 990 of the Titan Copperpiece OR 495 of the Titan Mythrilpiece OR 99 Titan Electrumpiece
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    Step 17 - Raise the Spiritbond of the weapon to 100%
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post745711

    sure, they removed a lot of the grind from the relic quest at 2.0 launch, but then they found out that too many players finish the relic quest (the reason why coil weapon got changed from ilevel 190 to ilevel 195)
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    Last edited by Felis; 12-17-2015 at 07:53 AM.

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    Will Brannigan
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post745711

    sure, they removed a lot of the grind from the relic quest at 2.0 launch, but then they found out that too many players finish the relic quest (the reason why coil weapon got changed from ilevel 190 to ilevel 195)
    You have omitted the following:

    Clear Darkhold in 13 minutes or less
    Clear Aurum Vale/Cutter's Cry in 16(?) minutes or less 3x each.
    Clear a class-specific Leve that's actually pretty challenging
    Clear Garuda with no deaths
    Clear Ifrit Extreme

    and that's just from memory

    There was a grind, but there was also some legitimate challenge there to make you feel like you actually accomplished something. Even in 2.0 this was the case with people wiping to Titan/Chimera/Hydra. It was all in bite-sized chunks too, so a casual player could work on it a bit at a time. Unfortunately, after the initial quest they replaced all of the parts you actually want to remember with more brainless solo grind. They also apparently have adopted the idea that casual = helpless newbie who can't complete anything requiring even a bit of teamwork.

    Really, I think the key here is creative use of the resources they have. The quests created after the initial 1.0 and 2.0 relics have been devoid of creativity.
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    Last edited by Brannigan; 12-17-2015 at 08:27 AM.