Anima Weapons

[winsock]

I read and read and all I see is "I'm entitled! I'm entitled!". No. You're. Not.

^ feels entitled to tell ppl they're entitled. The irony here is that you have no right to tell anyone how to use the forums. Thats SE's job. Your sense of entitlement is disgusting lol.

Welcome to Forum: Quests!
The purpose of this forum is to provide a place for players to discuss various quests in FINAL FANTASY XIV.

^ this gives them a right to express their opinions about quests no?

This forum is a place where you may discuss quests. You seem to want to discuss ppl. Why not continue discussing the quests? I'm sure there will be interesting quest-related discussions to follow!

[wutwut81]

I expected an annoying grind and just plan on doing this all casually over the next couple of weeks. With real life (work, family, holidays, etc) and other games to play, 800 Alex runs AIN'T HAPPENING. LOL. For my summoner (my main) the weapon is not BIS so I'm even less motivated to go through with the whole quest. There really isn't any rush. I'm just a little salty over the lack of innovation with the quests and the crap stats on some of the weapons.....and the crafting component of step 3. But, it is what it is. I still need to take down savage and Thordan Ex....just because. :-/

[TatoRazzino]

^ feels entitled to tell ppl they're entitled. The irony here is that you have no right to tell anyone how to use the forums. Thats SE's job. Your sense of entitlement is disgusting lol.

5th grade logic. Pretty.

People are not debating the quests. People are bitching. No one here owns a part of the game. It's like saying I own a part of The Coca Cola company just because I bought a bottle the other day. What you pay for subscription covers server maintenance; it hardly covers the hour wage of a single member of the dev team. No one heres own shit, and people have to start dealing with it. The grind is not painful, it's normal relic stuff; it feels big because they added three steps at the same time. The old relic started i80, then we got another upgrading option afterwards and months after we got Atma. Some people spent months trying to farm the 12 pieces, in a grind that was way more painful than anything people have now, and after that they had to do books to match the stats of the i95 weapon from coil (you could only do 4 books at launch of the animus questline). If you don't feel like doing it, just farm Thordan. It's a good weapon as well. If you can't farm Thordan, if you don't raid, if you can't craft, if you can't gather and if you can't save the gil to buy items, what are you doing with your time in the game?

[Zophar]

If you can't farm Thordan, if you don't raid, if you can't craft, if you can't gather and if you can't save the gil to buy items, what are you doing with your time in the game?

I don't have anything to add. I just really enjoyed this. Kudos.

[Mholito]

you could only do 4 books at launch of the animus questline

This is wrong. People simply misinterpreted the line stating that "There were nine books in total. Of which, only four were available at first" All that line meant, was that you only had four books to choose from at the start, then the other books became available as you completed the previous ones.
Aside from that though, you bring up good arguments.

[winsock]

The grind is not painful

^ the only difference between this opinion and the ppl who disagree with you is that this opinion is yours. Your opinion is no better or worse then anyone else commenting here. Its just hard to see that from atop a pedestal.

Personally, Im not a fan of RNG progression.
Grinding for hours and not being any closer to the end goal blows.
If you're to player part of the player base that enjoys this kind of content and want to voice your opinion about how much you enjoy it, that's fine.
I don't and ill voice that opinion.

[Zophar]

^ the only difference between this opinion and the ppl who disagree with you is that this opinion is yours. Your opinion is no better or worse then anyone else commenting here. Its just hard to see that from atop a pedestal.

Personally, Im not a fan of RNG progression.
Grinding for hours and not being any closer to the end goal blows.
If you're to player part of the player base that enjoys this kind of content and want to voice your opinion about how much you enjoy it, that's fine.
I don't and ill voice that opinion.

The grind is, however, 100% optional. This is not an opinion.

[winsock]

The grind is, however, 100% optional. This is not an opinion.

True. Not sure how that applies to the argument at all though. The entire game is optional. At what point are players allowed to give negative feedback or criticize the game in your opinion?

[TatoRazzino]

^ the only difference between this opinion and the ppl who disagree with you is that this opinion is yours. Your opinion is no better or worse then anyone else commenting here. Its just hard to see that from atop a pedestal.

Atma grind in 2.x: random fate drops in 12 different areas that required you to have your weapon equipped. The drop rate was very low.
Atma grind in 3.15: random fate drops in different areas. You don't have to be in the job you're doing the relic for, so you can level up alts while you do it. The drop rate is higher than 2.x atmas.

Dungeon grind in 2.x: you had to do one dungeon and five trials to start your relic, you had to grind 27 dungeons for Animus, and then grind 16 dungeons for Zodiac, which would drop some item at a low chance.
Dungeon grind in 3.15: 10 dungeons, from which 6 you can do undersized.

Light farm in 2.x: 2000 light points. Average light per minute was 2, with bonus. Required you to have a relic equipped.
Token farm in 3.15: you can grind stuff with alts. Maximum number of runs is less than 800.

Crafted items in 2.x: 16 HQ crafted items which required melded crafted gear and access to special books and desynth mats.
Crafted items in 3.15: 16 HQ crafted items which require specialists in evey job. Base mats are easier to gather by level 60 gatherers.

But it's just my opinion when I say the grind is not painful. I have 0 knowledge of this game and I haven't done the previous relic without nerfs (irony)

[Nyghtmarerobu]

But it's just my opinion when I say the grind is not painful. I have 0 knowledge of this game and I haven't done the previous relic without nerfs (irony)

Honestly, pre-nerf 2.0 relic was way worse than this stuff. Of course, I skipped the first quest.. 3 times *cough* for 3 differant relics *cough* (I'm sorry lol). I beleive people are making a moutain out of a mole-hill as far as difficulty. The only thing I have problems with, is the lack of actual interesting content. Many people have said this, and that, to me is the only thing missing from the quest chain. No Hydra, no Chimera, no other trials.