is this game near the end of it's life?

[AzureFlare]

Statement

Question: Do you really think there are any true casuals that have any interest in the current content? Heck, what do you think a casual is? What does the above statement assume a casual is?
I mean, if I want to grind mindlessly, there are plenty of F2P alternatives. I don't see what kind of casual is going to truly enjoy relic, crafting, gathering in their current states, while having to pay for it too. Most casuals I see do the exact opposite: they complete 3.0, try a little of the endgame content and then just quit. If anything, it seems more like those that invested immense amounts of time and attention into this game host the largest percentage of people interested in relic.

[aurace1095]

A fellow FFXIV player posted this on FFXIV group on FB:

If people have not realized SE designed this game for casuals, then they need to unsub. SE, at the end of the day, is a business and they have a target market, which happens to be their casual players. This has been very obvious from the beginning of FFXIV. Someone had stated, "Hardcore players make up a very small percentage of the population." Do you understand what that means to a business? Not a damn thing because those players are not making them money. All of the hardcore players could unsub right now, and the company would still profit. HOWEVER, the same can not be said if all of the casual players unsubbed. With that being said, SE does not gamble. They would not risk jeopardizing a large percentage of their players designing content that is harder than casual. If you are a hardcore player, FFXIV is not for you.

All one has to look at to know the game is made for casuals is the main web site, http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/

The first thing advertised is "six unique races and a multitude of customization options" Absolutely nothing related to endgame content is even advertised.

[Popotolord]

If people have not realized SE designed this game for casuals, then they need to unsub. SE, at the end of the day, is a business and they have a target market, which happens to be their casual players.

Why is it that developers and publishers seem to think that it's impossible for casual players to enjoy some things hardcore players enjoy. And why do they have to treat casuals like infants. They aren't retards incapable of learning. They're human beings and they're your valued customers.

[Enkidoh]

A week ago there were threads whining that the game was too easy and that everything was being handed to players without a challenge. SE adds something that is time consuming and not just handed to you on a whim, and players complain about it. Seems legit. I've said it before and I'll say it again, this community can't make up it's mind! No matter what SE does it's wrong. Really, SE may as well not even bother trying to appease the fickle whims of this community, as they're just going to fail no matter what they do.

And for those complaining that they have nothing to do, well, maybe you should have paced yourself more and not consumed the game like a five year old with a birthday cake - the old "it's not the destination that's important but the journey" saying once again rings true.

Oh, and for those who keep mentioning FFXI having 'lots to do', yeah, it's also had a huuuuuuuuuuuge grind far worse than anything FFXIV has ever had (remember the original FFXI relic quest? The original level grind? Dynamis requiring millions of gil to enter once a week? City story missions actually requiring you to grind battles to build up your reputation with that city before you could even be given them? And to say nothing about the stupid Trials of the Magian quest). FFXI for most of it's life was just one massive grind, and it's quite simply laughable that it's stated as being better than what we have here in FFXIV, because that simply is not true.

[Magis]

Oh, and for those who keep mentioning FFXI having 'lots to do', yeah, it's also had a huuuuuuuuuuuge grind far worse than anything FFXIV has ever had (remember the original FFXI relic quest? The original level grind? Dynamis requiring millions of gil to enter once a week? City story missions actually requiring you to grind battles to build up your reputation with that city before you could even be given them? And to say nothing about the stupid Trials of the Magian quest). FFXI for most of it's life was just one massive grind, and it's quite simply laughable that it's stated as being better than what we have here in FFXIV, because that simply is not true.

You're missing the point. FFXI's relic grind was huge yes... but what did you get out of it? A weapon the would be BIS for YEARS, a weapon that gave tons of stats and traits, as well totally new weapon skills. The reward was WORTH the grind. As one person long back on some post said "it broke the game how good it was". Now let's compare with FFXIV's relic: It will be replaced by other items with a better ilvl next patch. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

You would spend more time grinding for it than using it.

[Jinrya-Geki]

You're missing the point. FFXI's relic grind was huge yes... but what did you get out of it? A weapon the would be BIS for YEARS, a weapon that gave tons of stats and traits, as well totally new weapon skills. The reward was WORTH the grind. As one person long back on some post said "it broke the game how good it was". Now let's compare with FFXIV's relic: It will be replace by other items with a better ilvl next patch. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

It makes me cringe. Like I have said before I feel bad for those who enjoy doing it. Only to have it so quickly replaced.

[Remus]

You're missing the point. FFXI's relic grind was huge yes... but what did you get out of it? A weapon the would be BIS for YEARS, a weapon that gave tons of stats and traits, as well totally new weapon skills. The reward was WORTH the grind. As one person long back on some post said "it broke the game how good it was". Now let's compare with FFXIV's relic: It will be replaced by other items with a better ilvl next patch. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

You would spend more time grinding for it than using it.

Funny you say this because if you scroll down more on the content the game offers they only say gathering, FC, crafting, glamour,housing and gold saucer nothing about raids at least they put down dungeons showing how easy they are lol :P

[Savvy]

A week ago there were threads whining that the game was too easy and that everything was being handed to players without a challenge. SE adds something that is time consuming and not just handed to you on a whim, and players complain about it. Seems legit.

The new relic is not a challenge and it is not hard. It's mindless and it's brainless and lazy like so much that is being put out and I really question why the brainless grinding looks like a challenge to you. This is the opposite of challenging, and I'm sure me as well as lots others are not just speaking about the relic quests in here. This is just a final straw on the huge pile of straw that is already piled up.

[Greedalox]

This thread pops up every patch since the game launched. The answer is no.

[Goodberry]

I don't know how the game is faring, but I'm outta here. My subscription ends in a few days and I'm not going to renew it. Never mind the relic grind, I can't tolerate the idea of even one more Arboretum or Pharos Hard run, and am weary of floating islands, want to put feet on firm land again. Best wishes to those who stay and those who go.

P.S.
Great signature, Star.