is this game near the end of it's life?

[Critical-Limit]

I've been reading the whole thread

I agree.

It makes me wonder if they ever think

"Hey what if we bring back titan ifrit and Garuda, they get to reuse assets, so they won't have to design more have a story where for some reason the beast men work together and you need something from them to make the weapon. Make it where you have to fight both titan and Garuda at the same time with combo
Mechanics.

Imagine titan dropping rocks on the ground. And every so often Garuda will do a tornado move that rotates the rocks around the arena. So you have to pick up rocks and place them in a pattern so when they spin around they don't hit people. I doubt development would take THAT much of a hit. It's just reusing assets and making a fresh experience. Rather than... Go back and do this 800 times.

[Xenosan]

You realize on Call of Duty there's people that go around just shooting each other over and over for hours on end.... ...Everyone got bored of the expansion like 2 months after it came out because it was so easy and quick.

The reason those games can last is because the base formula allows for complex thinking, which in turn makes every game different. This keeps it fresh

In ffxiv, everything is scripted, so once you figure it out the first time it becomes like watching a movie that requires a button rotation.

I think there's a lot here that could be discussed. PVP, opposed to PVE, is unscripted. There is a trend that has been set in MMORPG competitors this year like GuildWars2's Expansion and the ElderScrollsOnlineUnlimited that are really taking MMORPG PVP to new levels. Bethedsa's PVP is making that game resurge. (I think their PVP sand-box actually goes back to Age of Conan, that's something AoC wanted to do a decade ago but lacked the technical capabilities to deliver).

We've had a strict raid focused vertical progression model for years now. The predictable and formulaic model is creating fatigue in new content. But it's the model, not the content, that's creating the ad nauseam.

It's frustrating because FFXIV has so many promising features like Gathering/Crafting, PVP, Housing, Hildibrand, Airships, Hunts, Diadem, GCs, FCs, etc etc etc. Despite all these different aspects of Eorzea, character progression in XIV has become too linear.

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

I think it's time for me to move back to FF11. I appreciate Yoshida and team's effort, I tried to support them as long as I could but I haven't had fun in the past months, there is no point for me. Is it dying? Probably not now, but at least for me, it has.

And if anyone thinks the relic is the whole problem for this sentiment in a lot of people, no it's not. The problem comes from 3.0. I don't know why people think they are complaining solely about the relic weapons grinding. The problem is not the grinding, the problem is HOW they approached it. The problem is that the content they've been releasing is uninteresting, boring and on top of that, tedious (in the case of Alexander Savage, with no middleground in between). FF11 is 10+ years old and it has more interesting content, there wasn't a day that passed where I had nothing fun to do in that game.

FFXI hands down no arguing was far superior than ffxiv in terms of content substance in all aspects: raiding end game, story, music only to be beat by graphical content due to ps2 limitations. You didn't have these BS reskins of EVERYTHING(LAZY).

Maybe reskins of models, but not content, that's for sure. Totally agree with you.

[Critical-Limit]

I think there's a lot here that could be discussed. PVP, opposed to PVE, is unscripted.

I agree, but I think it's possible to at the very least make the fights less scripted. You can make the AI adapt to things the parties like to abuse. Always like tanking the monster near the edge of the arena? The boss can use a move that makes you change positions and it only does it if you stay put. If you move before hand or often enough it'll do a different mechanic. This would involve making a fight. Have teams test play it. See the answers they come up with. Give the boss an answer to that strat. Randomize the TP move choice once in a while from the boss so it's more reactionary than "were on step 5, he will use this move"

[Caitlyn]

I dont think, that this game is near of its death or something. I just think that the developers and community reps dont really listen to the players anymore.

[Critical-Limit]

Also CoD and Smash are one time purchases. You pay and get X amount of hours out of it. MMO's have to keep you engaged to justify the monthly fee.

You missed the point completely.

I'm pointing out that it's possible to make content that lasts years. One time payment vs monthly payments should help my argument. We pay SE more money, why is it that ssbm that I bought once is so popular and still played at EVO to this day? While we're paying monthly wondering why we're bored.

[NoahArks]

Just logged into the game for fun. Tryign to play (haven't played for a month mind you), did they decrease the eso rewards on every dungeon and roulette? 15 for roulette? I remember it used to give 45 not even a month ago...

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Just logged into the game for fun. Tryign to play (haven't played for a month mind you), did they decrease the eso rewards on every dungeon and roulette? 15 for roulette? I remember it used to give 45 not even a month ago...

Theres now a level 60 roulette, and a new expert. You must not have unlocked the new expert then, cuz that still gives 75 tomes.

[NoahArks]

Theres now a level 60 roulette, and a new expert. You must not have unlocked the new expert then, cuz that still gives 75 tomes.

Probably not considering I haven't done the new story yet.... Oh well. Got bored after 5 minutes of playing and just logged out again.

[starLivitation]

Just logged into the game for fun. Tryign to play (haven't played for a month mind you), did they decrease the eso rewards on every dungeon and roulette? 15 for roulette? I remember it used to give 45 not even a month ago...

same here, i dont feel like doing anything for a few days mostly afk.