new relic, nop just nop !

[SendohJin]

this !! why do they recycle the SAME STUFF ?! do you call that content ? no im calling this making fool of us ...

because the PVE game really only has 4 things.

1) overworld spawns that you can zerg
2) overworld spawns that you can't zerg
3) 4 man dungeons
4) trials

[Tagihi]

then don't do it !

[Deathscythe343]

I would have thought with all of the things the game went through in 2.0 and them making changes later on that maybe, they would have learned from their mistakes and done something different.

[UnstablePersonality]

I expect a huge drop off once people reach the last step...

[Dorander]

If you honestly didn't think it would be the same you were deluding yourself. They needed another reason to get max level characters back into those lowbie dungeons/fates/ect. Plain and simple. Plus, it's an MMO for crying out loud. If you can do something in a day/few hours.. what's the point of a monthly sub?

[Deathscythe343]

If you honestly didn't think it would be the same you were deluding yourself. They needed another reason to get max level characters back into those lowbie dungeons. Plain and simple. Plus, it's an MMO for crying out loud. If you can do something in a day/few hours.. what's the point of a monthly sub?

Don't think it is that people weren't expecting a grind, more that they were expecting something new. Not the same old rehash of ideas that lead to the drops off that the game saw in 2.0. Also, add to that the fact that I saw plenty of people upset this morning that they had to grind atmas again for a weapon that they is equal to the law weapon they could have bought the day the expansion launched.

[Musashidon]

you dont understand my point, relic 2.0 = farm fate for item, relic 3.0 farm fate for item, AGAIN?! relic 2.0 farm old dungeon, relic 3.0 farm old dungeon ... AGAIN ?!

yea...that's what it's for to make old content relevant for awhile again.

congrats you just figured out the point of relics.

[Stanelis]

If you honestly didn't think it would be the same you were deluding yourself. They needed another reason to get max level characters back into those lowbie dungeons/fates/ect. Plain and simple. Plus, it's an MMO for crying out loud. If you can do something in a day/few hours.. what's the point of a monthly sub?

Wait, so you re paying a sub in order to help SE populate obsolete content ?

[Dorander]

Don't think it is that people weren't expecting a grind, more that they were expecting something new. Not the same old rehash of ideas that lead to the drops off that the game saw in 2.0. Also, add to that the fact that I saw plenty of people upset this morning that they had to grind atmas again for a weapon that they is equal to the law weapon they could have bought the day the expansion launched.

Yeah, the end result is a 210 weapon. That first one after the atma 2.0 grind (or if you turn in your zeta weapon) isn't the end. It's like the unfinished weapon you get in the very first relic quest. You have to wear it and do MORE stuff. Keep going, don't expect the first thing you see to be the end result.

[Dorander]

Wait, so you re paying a sub in order to help SE populate obsolete content ?

Have you been paying attention since 2.0 launched? Why do you think they put in the dungeon roulette and gave you tomestones? To rehash old content to help first timers through (newbie bonus to tomestones?). This is just another thing to make more max level people go through old stuff.