MCH, let's talk Armageddon.

[HM01]

I'm not stupid. I know ss doesn't increase proc rate. Skill speed obviously increases the speed of your split shot and other weapon skills so just makes sense that you will get more chances for a slug or clean proc.

[LunarEmerald]

Skill speed isn't worthless but it's by far our worst secondary stat. Sacrificing det or crit for skill speed hurts you.

[lulunami]

The effect 1 point of speed has on anything is infinitesimal. You need to really pile it on to see even a fraction of a second difference so unless you have it stacked on both weapon and gear its usually fairly worthless. You had to stack it high high high on blm to see a difference and on jobs like mch its even less useful. They tried to give it more use but until they make it more effective or let it play well with job abilities its one of the most insignificant stats we could have across the board. Even on smn they tried to make it more worthwhile by effecting dots and the difference is still lackluster compared to more crit or det

To be fair, 1 point of det or crit can be considered infinitesimal as well.

[Myon88]

Has anyone here already finished the relic and knows what it looks like with Gauss Barrel on? I overheard someone with it mention that Gauss Barrel is misaligned and centered on one of the three barrels (the top one), instead of the common center of all three.

If that is the case, it's very disappointing to hear considering the time investment required to obtain the relic.





This is what I'm talking about, it would really be more sensible to move it down a little so it's centered on all three of the barrels equally. I feel this is something important enough that we should try to get them to change, it can't be that hard to edit the GB attachment point.

[RiceisNice]

To be fair, 1 point of det or crit can be considered infinitesimal as well.

It's less infitesimal than skill speed, though.

[AxelDH]

Well, you more than likely wouldn't notice the difference between the two. Heavensfire is roughly 3 or 4 Dexterity better off in terms of stat weights, but the Animus has 5 more Vitality!

In other words, it will make about as much difference as changing your race.

[RiceisNice]

Well, you more than likely wouldn't notice the difference between the two. Heavensfire is roughly 3 or 4 Dexterity better off in terms of stat weights, but the Animus has 5 more Vitality!

In other words, it will make about as much difference as changing your race.

Which is a problem when you consider that one is I205 and the other is i210 yet they're still neck-to-neck value wise.

Or that the stats in this game are utterly boring and only act as numbers if you're feeling the same even after dropping 68 points of crit (so you should feel like youre seeing less big numbers) for 71 SS (where you should...well...attack faster, sure you'll see that your GCD is reduced by .02 seconds but you certainly aren't feeling it.)

This is what I'm talking about, it would really be more sensible to move it down a little so it's centered on all three of the barrels equally. I feel this is something important enough that we should try to get them to change, it can't be that hard to edit the GB attachment point.

Obligatory "lets put a gauss barrel on it" comment.

[HM01]

Can we just safely say that it all comes down to a matter of personal preference. Truce.

[Kabooa]

Which is a problem when you consider that one is I205 and the other is i210 yet they're still neck-to-neck value wise.
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That's kind of the point of the halfway weapons.

They give those who can't clear the very top end content something to work for / help them on clearing the top end content, while those who have already cleared the top end content are given unequivocally better baseline weapons, even if that scale of 'better' is minimal.

Relics have more stats. Some of the stat may be less desirable, but that doesn't change that as a baseline total number no weight attached value, it has more.

[RiceisNice]

That's kind of the point of the halfway weapons.

They give those who can't clear the very top end content something to work for / help them on clearing the top end content, while those who have already cleared the top end content are given unequivocally better baseline weapons, even if that scale of 'better' is minimal.

Relics have more stats. Some of the stat may be less desirable, but that doesn't change that as a baseline total number no weight attached value, it has more.

I'm comparing Heavensfire (i205) to Armageddon (i210) though. Even then, that simply doesn't hold true for some jobs where the anima weapon is better than the gordian. And I meant stat-weight, not numerical value. 1 point of SS is inherently weaker than 1 point of crit/det for a MCH.