SE GIVE US ANIMA FOR FREE (SARCASM)

[Cwestcott18]

I guess you haven't pugged/DF coil/EX Primals.

Its not that they're bad players, its that they're encouraged NOT to give a damn about mechanics and their job by being given content like this and tomes that rewards top end gear for nothing but time investment.

When tomes were first released, I took it as "Hey... this is a nice idea, it gives people a good set of gear to get into raiding". Then tomes became the MAIN content of end game.

I know exactly how that goes, but I was new at one time, I was terrible at all the jobs, and I knew it, but at some point you can blame the content and how its setup, but eventually people have to give a damn and think about how they can improve instead of blaming the system.

[Miscreant]

I'm wondering where the people who are white knighting this have been for the last two years for them to suddenly think all of the content in this relic quest is new and interesting.

[Adormus]

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Let me rephrase your sentence: In order to have fun with FFXIV, you shouldn't play it.

The whole game is optional. You don't have to play it at all. But we chose to. And we pay money for it. We pay the money for actual content instead of a relic grind that was thrown together in 10 minutes by an applicant. This expansion is over half an year old. And what has it to show for it? Content worth 2 weeks of playing at max level. And now they decide to bring on an "epic relic quest", that's little more than a selling point for bots.

The game has a lot of good things going for it. For one, most armour looks amazing. It's not simply a body point like in most MMOs. And it's not just there to show bare skin, but actually protecting your vital spots. I love that. I also love the character and world design. But there's just as much frustrating and ridiculous stuff going on. Lack of content might be the biggest issue. But it sure as hell is not the only one.

[16bitBounty]

I did the Relic 1 weapon up to Animus for my monks glamour. I have 0 faith in square enix's ability to make anything else nice for monks because they very obviously hate the class. I'd be totally surprised if anything in this quest would make me want to do it. Easy or no. I may go grind some fates for the hell of it though because my FC needs more credits.

[Moqi]

How dare you be not excited to grind fates. Do you know how hard it is to look at the 2.0 relic quest line and replicate it step by step? I'd like to see you try. Always blaming the devs instead of being excited at the idea of running 2.1 dungeons, which is precisely what you bought Heavensward for, run content that's been there for a year and know like the back of your hand. Shame on you!

[KaitlanKela]

If you do an hours worth of things daily, it will take you a month or two. These were daily things you were probably already doing anyway. It seems the most efficient way is to do a little bit of everything: beast tribes, alex, law. It may even force you to do things that you haven't done recently or try things you haven't done at all.

If you want it NOW then, yeah, it's going to be overwhelming.

We are laboring under the assumption that it will be outdated by February or March, but that may or may not be true. I'm thinking this is a series of progressions that will scale with the savage drop and/or eventually surpass them. If it becomes/remains BiS for most of 3.xx, it will be worth it. If SE proves otherwise with the 3.2 patch notes, then, yeah, there's the screw up. Not the grind itself.

[Cwestcott18]

Adormus

I'm not going to say you aren't right, but this is one piece of content that is for those who want it, if all I played for was the content I would of quit along time ago, sometimes that's what people want, but I get more enjoyment from the people then content.

Its just that people complain about 1 aspect of the game, and in in the long term is a glamor item, the eso and Gordian weapons are great and are more than enough to complete anything out right now, Its just that everyone moans and groans about something that is optional, no one is forcing them to do it, if they want it, they want it, if not then go enjoy the other things in the game.

[Cwestcott18]

If you do an hours worth of things daily, it will take you a month or two. These were daily things you were probably already doing anyway. It seems the most efficient way is to do a little bit of everything: beast tribes, alex, law. It may even force you to do things that you haven't done recently or try things you haven't done at all.

If you want it NOW then, yeah, it's going to be overwhelming.

We are laboring under the assumption that it will be outdated by February or March, but that may or may not be true. I'm thinking this is a series of progressions that will scale with the savage drop and/or eventually surpass them. If it becomes/remains BiS for most of 3.xx, it will be worth it. If SE proves otherwise with the 3.2 patch notes, then, yeah, there's the screw up. Not the grind itself.

Yes that is correct, everyone looks at it as in they have to have it within a month. If you look at it on a list it looks harder than it is.

[Jamillion]

Adormus

I'm not going to say you aren't right, but this is one piece of content that is for those who want it, if all I played for was the content I would of quit along time ago, sometimes that's what people want, but I get more enjoyment from the people then content.

Its just that people complain about 1 aspect of the game, and in in the long term is a glamor item, the eso and Gordian weapons are great and are more than enough to complete anything out right now, Its just that everyone moans and groans about something that is optional, no one is forcing them to do it, if they want it, they want it, if not then go enjoy the other things in the game.

So people don't have the right to be disappointed that SE ignored the feedback from the last relic and pulled the same bs again?

[KaitlanKela]

You can get weapons of the same level raiding savage.

From what I understand, there was no real comparable weapon to the relics in 2.xx. Now we have a different way to get BiS gear: doing skill-locked content. How is that not different?

If they continue relic progression throughout 3.xx, then you can get a good weapon grinding or raiding, whichever you prefer.
IF they don't continue it, then, yeah, that's wrong. But I have seen nothing to suggest this is the end. 2.xx wasn't just one level, so I would be really surprised if this was.