SE GIVE US ANIMA FOR FREE (SARCASM)

[Cwestcott18]

Astounding how many people want something that isn't even a required part of the main story, as someone who has done zeta, if you want to do the extra work then do it, if not then skip it, plenty of other gear that is as good if not better, as with the upcoming event lets all ask SE for anima presents.

[KeluBehemoth]

People don't want it for free.

I think most of us just want something akin to the first relic quest that actually required skill to complete, not just a mindless grind.

Titan HM was a serious content gate and FORCED people to "git gud". Its not like you had to clear T5.

People should be encouraged to play better and having to clear Ravana EX or Bismark/Thordan EX isn't that big of a deal.

Most players are more than capable of clearing this sort of content, many just don't care to learn the mechanics or their job.

Even having to run Coil 1-13 UNSYNC would be more interesting than grinding. Plus it would give new players an opportunity to experience the story since Coil runs are scarce in supply.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

I'll be interested to see how much of a time investment it really is, sure it sounds like a lot. but alex normal takes like 5 min to complete and beast tribe quests even less. This seems like something that could be done just plugging an hour or so each day into it between now and 3.2. I'll withhold judgement for now until i get to that part of the quest.

[Adormus]

People don't want it for free.

I think most of us just want something akin to the first relic quest that actually required skill to complete, not just a mindless grind.

Titan HM was a serious content gate and FORCED people to "git gud".

That's exactly what those people do not understand. It's not about the grind, but about the fact that there is _nothing_ besides the grind. Not even an entry trial like the Chimera for the 1. Relic. I don't understand how anyone in their right mind could possibly defend this.

[Cwestcott18]

Yes that was one of the biggest obstacles but with anything its eventually going to get bogged down, I think at this point that everyone assumes that since they did the grind to get a zeta, that they shouldn't have to do it again, adding a grind is about time, and plus everyone who complains forgets the fact that they don't even have to do it, there is plenty of gear out there that with skills is just as good.

[KeluBehemoth]

That's exactly what those people do not understand. It's not about the grind, but about the fact that there is _nothing_ besides the grind. Not even an entry trial like the Chimera for the 1. Relic. I don't understand how anyone in their right mind could possibly defend this.

Its because the same people who defend "People just want stuff handed to them" believe that grinding low level content for 200 hours is an achievement or feat of some sort.

Even running Coil 1-13 would be better. Its easier than current mid-core content, gives new players access to the story AND teaches people how to play their job because T9/13 is still a challenge unsync.

[Cwestcott18]

That's exactly what those people do not understand. It's not about the grind, but about the fact that there is _nothing_ besides the grind. Not even an entry trial like the Chimera for the 1. Relic. I don't understand how anyone in their right mind could possibly defend this.

Its all optional though, and plus if everyone wants to just wait around with only FFXIV to play then yeah everyone is going to get really tired of the lack of content.

[DragonSlayer45]

Honestly, I don't see what this post accomplishes. People who like it will do it, while people who don't like it will stay away from it or suck it up and do it anyway. I've dealt with worse grinds and see this as a long term goal. At least its better than RNG, the last step for Anima gives me progress, however small.

Just my opinion, though. One of many. I'm not going to criticize people who may not like the grind though because I've been on that side of the fence many times before.

[KeluBehemoth]

Its all optional though, and plus if everyone wants to just wait around with only FFXIV to play then yeah everyone is going to get really tired of the lack of content.

You cant say people will get tired with lack of content. Its the same argument as with capping Eso tomes.

You could run the relic or run tomes for multiple other jobs. There is enough content in this game to keep you occupied easily through patch cycles without gating content.

Even with the current caps its still difficult to do everything I need to do during the week and I play a LOT.

Many players are discouraged in levelling multiple jobs because of locked content... in a game that encourages multiple jobs.

We have a massive shortage of tanks and healers because of this.

[WinterLuna]

Its because the same people who defend "People just want stuff handed to them" believe that grinding low level content for 200 hours is an achievement or feat of some sort.

Achievements are subjective, so yes, this is an achievement to some. Most of the people complaining have taken one look at the phases and decided "nope", come to the Forums to whine about it with no constructive feedback other than the one thread I've seen, and will probably go ahead with the relic anyway after threatening to unsub. I don't know why people think this is any more grindy than what they've been doing already.

Nobody is being forced to get the relic weapon and there are other weapons available. If you don't want to grind then simply don't.