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    Pretending to dps in dungeons, is this a new fad?

    This might be easy to get mistaken. I'm not talking about people who legitimately like up and afk in a dungeon for some reason. I'm also not talking about dps that might not be doing their best, trying their best, like maybe need more practice or even just like straight up don't care even. I am talking about dps that don't use any skills and only auto attack.

    Granted, I don't run expert dungeons beyond capping esos for the week, so my sample size is probably just how ever many of those dungeons it would take to cap. However, since the newest content patch with the new dungeons, I went back to tanking them since I hadn't for a while and I'm seeing something I didn't see before. I see people dpsing by merely auto attacking and literally (i actually watch cause I'm a tank in a easy dungeon that is going very slow) they are not using any skills of any kind at all. Often, during boss fights, the boss will move a bit and they will just stand there and not even try to keep auto-attacking. They will just stand there in place, presumably waiting for the boss to come back to where they were.

    Is this some new thing like when planking came out(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planking_%28fad%29) Cause no one told me, and now I feel old. In the last two weeks, nearly every dungeon I've tanked that I kept track of had one.

    I should mention that I didn't say anything to these individuals, nor am I telling them how to live their life or whatever... But...what is happening... wut happen?

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    Last edited by Cherie; 12-15-2015 at 08:04 AM.

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    This has been a thing in 24-mans at least for a while. I remember a lot of auto attacking dps back during Crystal Tower, although I haven't encountered any in expert lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
    I should mention that I didn't say anything to these individuals, no am I telling them how to live their life or whatever... But...what is happening... wut happen?
    If you give them a pass for doign so, they'll keep doing it. That's why if I'm an instance, I'll probably be the first to point out if someone (dps, tank or healer) is slacking. If they want to justify it and continue doing so (espesically when it's something as trivial as keeping ninja poison or Fists of fire on, or just auto attacking with no weaponskills), you can have fun with waiting for a tank, healer, or a 40+ minute run if the DPS that's taking my spot has your exact mindset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    If you give them a pass for doign so, they'll keep doing it. That's why if I'm an instance, I'll probably be the first to point out if someone (dps, tank or healer) is slacking. If they want to justify it and continue doing so (espesically when it's something as trivial as keeping ninja poison or Fists of fire on, or just auto attacking with no weaponskills), you can have fun with waiting for a tank, healer, or a 40+ minute run if the DPS that's taking my spot has your exact mindset.
    I'm not terribly good with words or confrontation. If you notice, I had to edit my opening post a couple times to make it make more logical sense... :/ Also, I guess I'm worried about hurting someone's feelings like, maybe there is some reason they think this is how to play? If someone was just outright trolling I'd say something or leave of course. Really the people that do this, atleast in small 4 person content like this, only are wasting their own time (well mine too I guess).
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    The DPS in my raid group pretend to DPS all the time
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    I did it a lot in 24 man stuff lol.
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    I've seen it maybe once or twice and I just pointed it out and after one or two more groups to give other people a chance to witness it, we kicked that person - or, more likely, bot.
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    I pointed out that a lot of healers do this. Heal every couple hits, and round around in circles pretending do something. Every time I do so, they say it's hard to heal and dps at the same time...

    *facepalm*

    Granted, I am not asking for a lot. If it's a WHM, maybe a few pops of Holy? Even just a few drops of DoTs will please me as then they are providing their part. It's like a tank not using their cd's properly. I've seen a lot of tanks not properly put out enough hate (just flash and that's it), then lose hate and then blame the others.
    Before you point fingers at me, I don't burstfire with my Bard unless it's a boss during dungeons. I DoT up to 3-4 adds and use my procs to AoE if adds are only pulled in small groups. Large pulls I use all my CD's and just rambo on (at that point, tanks who overpull know what they are doing).


    Unfortunately, there will always be lazy people or rather choose to play in a certain way and we cannot change that. Just ignore them, don't waste your energy and focus on doing your part, at least you know you've contributed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
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    I doubt they'll get geninuely offended if you call someone for doing less than auto attacks. I mean honestly at level 60, you'd have to have a basic understanding of your job at this point. The only way you can't is if you absolutely did not read anything, which also won't get you far in life in general.
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    I used to try to say helpful things in dungeons. Like if someone said "how to do this boss, im new", I might say 1-2 sentences to help them avoid getting one shot or whatever. Lately, I don't say anything at all, even if they ask, even if they say something incendiary to get a rise out of me. I used to chat up people all the time in the past, met some neat people that way. Now, the moment I say anything there is a 70% chance I'll end up regretting it.

    Your mileage may vary of course. I just get all kinds of hate for some reason since maybe 2.0 came out if I say anything in a dungeon.

    "Oh sorry to bother you mr. tank, I'm not sure why you are wearing intellegence statted jewelery but, would you mind please putting on strength or vitality? I'm not very picky just it might go better if you switched cause we keep wiping. I thought it might be some accidental error..."

    "OMG STFU NOOB!! DON'T TELL ME HOW TO LIVE MY LIFE!"

    Then I'm just like:

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