3.15 relics...

[Ilenya]

Oh goody. All the cheaters get to bot the relic again while legit players have to go through hell. I can already see the bot trains whoo.

What is this supposed to mean, exactly?

[ViktorMestrovic]

Don't worry.. the dragoon weapon makes no sense at all. You need diadem lucky crit rolls to even justify using this piece of virtual fantasy garbage lol.. go ahead.. rearrange the armour you're wearing.. you will never make up for the lost eso dmg, even after you are 50 acc above acc cap lol... absolute shit and a clear replica of the zeta weapon they just peeled the pretty petals off the end of the spear. Yes, I have cleared a4s and have 210.. but now I have no reason to give them money at all lol... most of us don't, tbh. This is their hold me over.. more snow cloak etc.. for garbage item! GG!! 6 months without a true progression raid.. terrible itemization (expected because SE is as predictable as looking at current secondary stat combos for ilvl prior to a new one being added). I feel for ninja too, but at least their ss wasn't AS high lmao.. that spear = 700+ ss already running out of tp something fierce in a4s with 648ss.

[Ryel]

What is this supposed to mean, exactly?

I think they're upset that there are players who are likely going to just bot FATEs for atma drops and judging by SE's track record of N.Thanalan nothing will really be done about it?

/shrug

[hagare]

yes, but he did not regularly use it.

he also had a dagger.



relic was available in 2.0, however it's stats were not alterable until near the end of 2.3. In addition, the relic is always a few steps behind the top tier until the end of a patch cycle.

Ho ho.
I guess they're saving gungnir for something else sigh....

[Moqi]

The "Bad" relics are only so because these classes already have good Upgraded Eso/Gordian weapon.

Then maybe they should have spent all those months thinking about ways to make all the alternatives viable instead of releasing junk.

But that would require putting some thought into it instead of rolling a dice to determine stats and we can't have that, they're working so hard already changing the text quests from 2.0 and reskinning old models.

[Aikaal]

People here complaining about the stats need to realize that this stats are perfectly valid once you take into consideration the other i210 options.

The "Bad" relics are only so because these classes already have good Upgraded Eso/Gordian weapon.

BLM's get CRIT/DET on their relic, because their alternatives already have CRIT/SS and DET/SS combo.
NIN's get SS/DET on their Relic, because their alternatives already have CRIT/DET and CRIT/SS.
DRG's get SS/DET on their relic, because therr alternatives already have CRIT/DET and CRIT/SS.
PLD already has a CRIT/DET option.
SMN same deal
etc

On the other hand, classes with shitty Gordian/Eso get amazing Relics. WAR, DRK and SCH come to mind.

Copying a reply I made on a BLM thread.

There is no reason we shouldn't be allowed to have the stats we want. If SE didn't want us to have the stats we wanted, they wouldn't have allowed us to have the stats we wanted in 2.x to begin with. You can't go ahead and give a player an ability for his relic and strip this ability from the player right away. We didn't got this weapon for the first 5-6 months of 3.x

Relic is meant to be an alternative and this is fine. Except, like I previously mentioned, we didn't have a relic for the first 5-6 months. It is likely when 3.2 is release a new 220 weapons with a new currency will be here. We'll have a new Primal with iLevel 215 weapon. Its already gonna be obsolete lol.

The message I got and I am sure most players got when SE introduce relics and allowed us to customize it was this relic weapon, the only purple item in the game represents you and walks with you the entire gameplay. You are not forced to mix-max a relic. You can go ahead and put 40% Crit, 30% Speed and 30% Det if you want. People that say Relic weapons aren't meant to be BiS are correct. You are wrong to think Relic isn't meant to be built like you wish and represent you. Be a Parry WHM for the cares I have!

This is another failure SE made imho. Another failure for all the failures they've made since 3.x. They drastically changed the gameplay and mentality of the game between 2.x and 3.x and its hurting to see that.

[Warlyx]

why is so hard to open a menu after finishing the quest and let players choose the stats? , add a item to being able to change stats later on and profit....

[Cherie]

I've seen a few people mention adding accuracy on these and such.

I can say with almost complete certainty that these relics don't have accuracy and won't be able to add it if we get to customize it. There was a video at one point where the devs said that weapons will no longer have accuracy. It was done so you don't have to replace some armor just cause you got a nice weapon that had accuracy. I don't remember which live letter or video it was however.

Maybe someone with a better memory can quote it for us. I don't really have a memory for dates or video numbers.

[Evangela]

Now it's time to take a long break again. This game keeps screwing the players over and over.

[Granyala]

There is no reason we shouldn't be allowed to have the stats we want. If they didn't want us to have the stats we wanted, they wouldn't have allowed us to have the stats we wanted in 2.x. You can't go ahead and give a player an ability for his relic and strip this ability from the player.

2.x relic wasn't customizable until the Alexandrite stage.
I'm sure the 3.x relic will be able to be customized later on.

As a DEV you don't give out all the goods at the start.

I really had to chuckle about the atma grind 2.0 though. So .... unimaginative.
Guess they are reeeallly desperate for FATE participants.